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To: zbigreddogz
NYCity had lots of problems that were unique to the Big Apple only. But they weren't major social issues that effect the whole nation. 70% of NYCity voters are registered Democrats. They don't give a rats arse about social issues. They don't care about stopping abortion, allowing more gun rights, less gay rights or stopping illegals from entering the US. Who do you think elected Rudy twice? Republicans? Conservatives? NO! Liberal Democrats elected Rudy twice.

Rudy did a good job as Mayor by NYCity standards. Not by conservative standards and for good reason. Rudy is no conservative.

Cleaning up Times Square, eliminating the squeegee-men, arresting public urinators and catching turnstile jumpers are not the issues that conservative activists will be judging candidates on in the GOP primaries.

Rudy`s political positions on the major social issues will be what conservative activists will be judging him on. And Rudy`s stances on the social issues remain in lockstep with liberal Democrats like Hillary and Bill Clitnon, Algore, John Kerry, John Edwards and Ted Kennedy.

~ Pro-choice
~ Supports Abortion on Demand
~ Supports Partial Birth Abortion
~ Supports Roe v. Wade
~ Supports Taxpayer Funded Abortions
~ Supports Embryonic Stem Cell Research
~ Opposes a Federal Marriage Amendment
~ Supports Gay Domestic Partnership/Civil Unions
~ Supports Openly Gay Military
~ Opposes Defense of Marriage Act
~ Supports Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens
~ Opposes Tough Penalties for Employers who hire Illegal Aliens
~ Supports Sanctuary Cities/Ignoring Immigration Law
~ Supports gun control and Confiscating firearms
~ Supports an Assault Weapons Ban
~ Initiated Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers Supports
~ Supports Extensive Gun Registration/Licensing

These are the issues that will matter to most conservatives when they go to the primary polls to choose a GOP candidate to match up against the Democrat candidate. Rudy is outside mainstream social conservatism. Not to mention Rudy`s fiscal record of advancing big government policies. Rudy left behind a big deficit, massive debt and an overall poor fiscal record. The scope of NYCity government was not reduced at all. From 1997 to 2001, spending under Giuliani went up 32%, more then double the rate of inflation.

The facts on Rudy don't seem to match the rhetoric some FReepers are boldly posting in recent times.

208 posted on 02/13/2007 9:40:42 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Reagan Man
~ Pro-choice ~ Supports Abortion on Demand

True but redundant.

~ Supports Partial Birth Abortion

Not true.

~ Supports Roe v. Wade

Uncertain. He's never said he supports it outright, and most recently, he spoke approvingly of it being cut back.

~ Supports Taxpayer Funded Abortions ~ Supports Embryonic Stem Cell Research

Unclear on both. Not necessarily true.

~ Opposes a Federal Marriage Amendment

As do a lot of Conservatives, at least until it's proven necessary by DOMA being overturned by the courts, and outcome that is by no means certain, and actually seems unlikely.

~ Supports Gay Domestic Partnership/Civil Unions ~ Supports Openly Gay Military

True.

~ Opposes Defense of Marriage Act

False. He has never said this.

~ Supports Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens

True, but conservatives are not monolithic on this issue.

~ Opposes Tough Penalties for Employers who hire Illegal Aliens

Certainly not proven, he's said little about it.

~ Supports Sanctuary Cities/Ignoring Immigration Law

I have no idea what you are talking about, show me.

~ Supports gun control and Confiscating firearms

A gross exaggeration. He has supported some gun laws I don't like, but still.

~ Supports an Assault Weapons Ban

True.

~ Initiated Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers Supports

Well, I'm not sure it was as bad as some, but there is something to this and I disagree with it.

~ Supports Extensive Gun Registration/Licensing

What do you mean by 'extensive'? If by 'extensive' you mean he favors registering hand guns, true, but while I personally don't support that, half of the Republicans in congress do, we'd have to throw out a lot of good people if this is a test.

211 posted on 02/13/2007 9:54:20 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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