[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

LOL Now you're engaging in pure political sophistry. Next we'll be seeing you post out and out psychobabble.

So are you going to refute the post or continue laughing nervously as your candidate becomes more and more irrelevant.

[Reagan Man]

There is nothing to refute. And my laughing has to do with you being a first class joke. You keep running at the mouth, posting all sorts of nonsense about Rudy. I gave you an EXTENSIVE list of items that conservatives will judge the GOP candidates on when it comes time to vote in the primaries. Not one of those major social issues does Rudy support.

NYCity had lots of problems that were unique to the Big Apple only. But they weren't major social issues that effect the whole nation. 70% of NYCity voters are registered Democrats. They don't give a rats arse about social issues. They don't care about stopping abortion, allowing more gun rights, less gay rights or stopping illegals from entering the US. Who do you think elected Rudy twice? Republicans? Conservatives? NO! Liberal Democrats ellected Rudy twice, and if he hadn't performed satisfactory during his first term, he wouldn't have been reelected.

Rudy did a good job as Mayor by NYCity standards. Not by conservative standards and for good reason. Rudy is no conservative.

>>>>>You conveniently ignore the other social issues that Rudy championed, such as ..... making Times Square suitable for tourists ...

You're not paying attention. I gave him credit for cleaning up Times Square. What do you want. I'm not gonna be holding up Rudy as the savior of the GOP. That's your job.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Abortion, gun control, and homosexual behavior were all established policies before Rudy, and no matters who's elected elected they'll continue.

Wow. Talk about surrender.

I don't care what good Giuliani's done (which, compared with his other negative attributes, doesn't amount to much). I'm sorry. His position on the 2nd Amendment and gun control is enough to write him off immediately.