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| The Watcher
Posted on 02/12/2007 9:19:55 PM PST by The Watcher
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To: Old Professer
Every keystroke must be recorded the way I see this. There isn't enough data storage infractructure on the planet to accomplish that.
What 'Watcher' is talking about the enactment of The Digital Telephony Act of 1994 (CALEA)...then what it requires is that phone companies and ISPs provide law enforcement officials with assurance that they will be able to "tap" or have access to the content of any communications incorporating new digital technology.
That is different than requiring these companies to actually record said data. Quite a different thing.
To: Ramius
122
posted on
02/14/2007 8:33:29 AM PST
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
To: The Watcher
But as of March 14, 2007, EVERY means of access to the internet, except for dialup, will be REQUIRED by the federal government to be tap and record the use by ANY specific user. This statement isn't completely clear.
The part I have placed in bold is a non-sequitur.
However, if by this statement you mean that all ISPs will be REQUIRED by the federal government to tap and record digital communications usage by ANY specific user....then you are wrong.
What you refer to as CALEA is called The Digital Telephony Act of 1994.
It requires phone companies and ISPs to provide law enforcement officials only with assurance that they will be able to "tap" or have access to the content of any communications incorporating new digital technology in the same way that traditional voice transmissions are currently accessible.
That is quite a different thing than actually recording these communications. Quite a different thing indeed.
The infrastructure needed to make these assurances was far more cumbersome for analog data, yet there was not the same hue and cry as we are seeing for the enactment of the digital data portions of the Act.
To: Old Professer
This isn't about warrants, its about whether or not some new communications system should be un-tappable. Warrant or not, when has there ever been a communications system that was beyond the reach of government agencies?
People are reacting to this as if there was some golden past when they had a system that was out of reach of law enforcement. That the Constitution somehow promises some such ability. That's simply never been the case.
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posted on
02/14/2007 8:49:06 AM PST
by
Ramius
([sip])
To: Porterville
Good morning.
"Seeing the "wild west" tamed is a good thing."
In what way?
Michael Frazier
125
posted on
02/14/2007 8:51:04 AM PST
by
brazzaville
(no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
To: Old_Mil
Grow up! We are living in a world of Terrorists. So sad you cannot view your kiddie porn in private. I personally have nothing to hide from the feds.
126
posted on
02/14/2007 8:53:07 AM PST
by
razzle
To: Knitebane
Then anyone getting a warrant is going to have to figure out how to make sense out of terabytes of the above. Good luck with that. Ever read "Digital Fortress"? Whadya think of it? Pucky?
It will happen eventually.
To: The Watcher
Piece by piece, decree by decree, we're losing our rights. The Republicans better realize that most of us conservatives believe in less government and more personal freedoms, not less.
128
posted on
02/14/2007 9:00:08 AM PST
by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
To: politicalwit
Good morning.
"Which is the bigger threat?
(A) Terrorists
(B)Loss of Freedom by a Government"
That's easy. The WOT provides us with an external enemy that we can strike back against. Even the homegrown terrorists can be targeted without too much trouble.
What are you going to do if your own government is taking your rights and giving itself more power, when every law involves penalities and especially when so many people believe that TPTB only go after bad people.
"Why should I worry, I'm not doing anything wrong?"
Michael Frazier
129
posted on
02/14/2007 9:13:26 AM PST
by
brazzaville
(no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
To: razzle
Grow up! We are living in a world of Terrorists. So sad you cannot view your kiddie porn in private. I personally have nothing to hide from the feds.
I'm afraid that it is you who have a great deal to learn, and a great deal of growing up to do. It is quite obvious that we are living in a world with its share of Muslim> Terrorists. So let us kill them.
Kiddie porn has absolutely nothing to do with it, but an understanding - clear to our founders and to any student of history - that one's own government has a far greater potential to engage in terrorist acts against the citzenery than any group of Muslims hiding in a cave.
Just ask anyone who lived under Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, or any of the dozens of other dictatorial regimes that have existed throughout history. Our brand is a bit different, of course, our dictators wear black robes, not armbands.
I have nothing but utter disdain for those weak minded cowards who willingly surrender their freedoms for slavery and the attendent degree of safety that it brings.
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posted on
02/14/2007 10:13:31 AM PST
by
Old_Mil
(http://www.gohunter08.com/)
To: razzle
Grow up! We are living in a world of Terrorists. So sad you cannot view your kiddie porn in private. I personally have nothing to hide from the feds.With a few more good citizens like you, we will finally defeat Emmanuel Goldstein forever!
131
posted on
02/14/2007 10:16:33 AM PST
by
Wormwood
(Your Friendly Neighborhood Moderate)
To: Old_Mil
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
---James Madison
Poor James, he never envisioned how much more powerful Kiddie Porn could be used as a justification for State power.
132
posted on
02/14/2007 10:19:07 AM PST
by
Wormwood
(Your Friendly Neighborhood Moderate)
To: RobRoy
Also, we still only have the cameras on freeways I wonder how long that will last. Some places are plastered with them now. Last fall, I was able to track a car for miles on web-accessible ones.
133
posted on
02/14/2007 11:42:56 AM PST
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Gondring
I was waiting in traffic right next to a traffic video camera while on a freeway onramp yesterday. I remember thinkging at the time, "I should get a wrist rocket and some ball bearings.
134
posted on
02/14/2007 11:57:21 AM PST
by
RobRoy
(Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
To: Rembrandt; little jeremiah
What are you putting across the wires that you are so concerned about the government seeing? I spend time quite a bit of time at traditional Christian sites.
It concerns me that with a future government that may be a reason for persecution.
It basically is right now in certain countries.
135
posted on
02/14/2007 12:29:34 PM PST
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
To: Ramius
I understand, but it doesn't make it right, nor does that mean we should just allow this to occur.
136
posted on
02/14/2007 2:44:53 PM PST
by
Abundy
To: Old Professer
Yep, and train wrecks happen on broken lines.
137
posted on
02/15/2007 4:28:18 PM PST
by
Porterville
(Huh? You're stupid.... yeah, I knew that.)
To: The Watcher; Jim Robinson; Richard Poe
138
posted on
02/16/2007 6:59:19 PM PST
by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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