This is Rudy.
This is George.
Yea you're likely right. LOL :>}
Posted on 02/12/2007 5:24:32 PM PST by NapkinUser
Well, we have a very different view of these threads. IF I was going to say that anyone was trying to stifle debate I would say it was the Rudy supporters, but I don't think anyone is consciously attempting to do that.
We aren't stifling debate just because we don't come into Rudy threads shaking our pom-poms and rah-rah-Rudying. We are debating his stance on the issues or giving our opinions. You might disagree with the opinions, but that in no way stifles the debate on the threads.
As Jim Robinson has said, we are ALL conservatives here on this forum, but it would be a freaking miracle if we all agreed on everything. I wouldn't insult my fellow Freepers by even suggesting there is any lock-stepping going on around here.
I think that Rudy supporters are totally writing all opposition off as being 'the fringe element'. There is always a 'fringe element' ready to go off on any topic. Those people are loud and sometimes obnoxious, but there are very many reasonable Freepers who have objections to Rudy being our President. Take a look at the Freeper polls. We aren't fear-mongerers and we don't want a candidate that is so divisive that he does split the party. 'The Party' has not picked our nominee yet. This is the time to discuss our choices for nominee and to discuss their views on the issues that are important to each of us.
> Guiliani simply can't win. He should save himself and his party the hassle and end this now.
The more I think about it, the more I believe both Giuliani and McCain are actually the stalkinghorses for the *real* Republican candidate, who has yet to reveal him/herself.
They are there to draw fire from Billary and Obama, and cause either/both to peak too early...
Brilliant strategy, worthy of the GOP.
Somehow I doubt that. The unofficial moniker of the GOP is "The Stupid Party".
There's a reason for that, my friend.
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McCain fits that, then...
P.S. I know a bit about national security. Rudy is not even close to John McCain.
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This is Rudy.
This is George.
Yea you're likely right. LOL :>}
Why are you not supporting Duncan Hunter? He is the real conservative in this race.
If you took Duncan Hunter's views and we changed him from a congressman to a Governor, people would be doing cartwheels over him. I don't understand it. Don't we pick our candidates on their platform? I cannot understand discounting him as a viable candidate because he's a congressman. I believe he has great leadership qualities.
Pretty good, there.
Yes...Alhough I found the "we're gonna get you if you run, Rudy" tone taken by this columnist somewhat amusing.
I'm not a Rudy supporter...I don't like any of the current candidates (Run Newt, Run) but the degree of hostility shown by so many conservatives on this board is interesting. Admdst all the blather about finding the new Reagan, they're overlooking some of the basic tenets of Reaganism. Speak no ill of a fellow Republican and let the market sort things out.
If Rudy wins...he wins.
A while back I kept trying to think of who he reminded me of. I knew it was a face I'd seen many years before :>} Rudy would do to our nation what Taxquist did to our state. Not on my vote he won't.
You would think that some people around here didn't learn ANYTHING from the last election.
When Pubbies behave like Dims, the voters choose the Real Thing rather than the pretender.
Let's examine the record for the last 30 years, shall we?
1976 - Moderate Pubbie vs. Democrat. Pubbie loses.
1980 - Conservative Pubbie vs. Democrat. Pubbie wins.
1984 - Ditto
1988 - Moderate Pubbie ( hand-picked replacement for previous conservative Pubbie) vs. Democrat. Pubbie wins.
1992 - Moderate Pubbie vs. Democrat. Pubbie loses.
1996 - Moderate Pubbie vs. Democrat. Pubbie loses.
2000 - Conservative Pubbie vs. Democrat. Pubbie wins.
2004 - Conservative Pubbie vs. Democrat. Pubbie wins.
Run Lefty Rudy against Hillary and Hillary will walk away with the election.
Why not run a real conservative? Reagan showed how it's done.
He didn't mean lay down and let the party run all over you. BTW those who use that quote forget it was one GHW Bush who flamed Reagan up one side and down the other. Then after replacing Reagan tore down all he did. I think that quote is being used for a purpose it was never intended for. Reagan would have likely been talking pretty ill against the GOP of the past 11 years had he been dealing with them. He sure would not have wasted a majority in both houses.
I would have loved to have seen Reagan handling ones like Specter. LOL Speak no ill? Yea sure. The party needs some hostility. IT IS DEAD! Maybe some hostile voters who are real sick and tired of things can wake it up again to something besides the Democratic Party's doormat it has become.
The older I get the more I love his music. Thats life comes to mind, It was a very good year as well.
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Amen. Giuliani should drop out of the race.
"It was a very good year" and "One more for the road" are probably my top picks. He played the latter in this movie where he's a down and out bar pianoman, and it was really cool. I'm not sure what the movie was called.
You don't get it...debate the ideas, not the individuals. Too many seem to say "Rudy isn't 100% conservative, so I'm going to dreg up whatever chunk of garbage, rumor or innuendo I can about his personal life to smear him"
THAT'S the kind of crap the democrats pull.
But, maybe that's the way politics works. If your candidate isn't popular enough to out poll the front runner, attack the front runner to bring him back to you. Of course that tactic does nothing to improve the process and does much to harm it, but that's ok....a real conservative can win then!
Are you saying that a candidates personal beliefs and behavior does not matter, and should not be brought out?
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