Posted on 02/12/2007 12:49:15 PM PST by Reagan Man
Hillary is the best example of the HL Mencken quote that I include in my tagline: The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
Now that she's getting into the race and focusing on winning the Dem base, she is turning to full demagogue mode... and she knows she is speaking to people she considers to be idiots (and unfortunately, most Dems ARE!). It's the only way to explain Democrat politics.
As a New Yorker, this poll is probably pretty accurate. the vast majority of NY'ers just don't get it. They saw 3,000 of their neighbors brutally murdered on 9/11 and have no recollection of it.
I'd add another -
Do you really want to have to listen to THAT VOICE for four to eight years?
America is an increasingly liberal country. I noticed it started in the early 1990s probably is response to the 1990-91 recession which, unlike previous recessions, hit white collar workers hardest. But I think here it is:
1. People dont remember liberalism, we really havent had it since 1980. We will probably be forced to go thru a decade or so of real liberal policies, that will result in a poorer weaker america circa 1980.
2. Conservatives have stopped articulating conservatism
Periodically thru american history, the country has experienced periods where the country moved sharply leftward. The Progressive Era, New Deal, Great Society. It seems we are on the threshold of another era of liberalism.
Frankly, if the GOP candidate is going to lose no matter who they are, it might as well be a RINO.
New Yawkers never fail to live down to my expectations.
Trouble is, I don't think we're going to survive the next liberal swing, at least not as the Republic we know. If it's Hillary! in '08 (likely), we'll probably get blown up or taken over by a hostile power or perhaps radical Islam. If it's Obamalamadingdong, there will probably be a domestic revolt, albeit of the Jacobin variety.
Democrats were two to one in this poll so it is not too shocking.
It is pretty simple really. Beat Guiliani and your worry goes away. WHOSE fault is it that you cannot?
The Rudyphobes have left no name uncalled.
I always suspected that Giuliani carrying NY against Hillary was a long shot but I never expected (1) Obama to be leading him and (2) the margins of seperation so large.
If you support and promote candidates like Rudy Giuliani to be the next POTUS, that is exactly what you're gonna get. I'm for telling liberalism to go take a hike and I'm for telling liberals, whether they be Democrat or Republican, you won't be getting my vote. Not now, not ever.
If we are on the verge of a new era of liberalism in American politics, my vote will not be part of the destruction of America to those ends. I'll stick with voting for the best conservative candidate available. Someone who supports and promotes traditional American values of mainstream Constitutional conservatism.
But if we are on the verge of a new liberal era in American history, it would be better for the RINO to lose.
I think we are on the verge of a new era because:
1. Weakness in the WOT isnt hurting the DEMs
2. Even with a RINO, NY polling numbers are no different than against a conservative like GHW Bush, indicating that NYers are voting D regardless of who the candidates are.
I believe that the 2008 election will be much like the 1968 federal election was in Canada in terms of importance and permenent realignment to the left.
Wonder if Rudy would poll better against Hillary if they both ran as dems in the NY primary? That might be his best shot.
"I can't believe the power this woman has. It's mind boggling. There must be something in the water that makes people stupid."
No, New York is just a far-left state that NO republican, including Giuliani despite the delusions of his hardcore fan base, will win in 2008.
Rudy Ping
any union workers among this un biased poll???
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