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To: DieHard the Hunter
And in his case, he is a real victim of a serious injustice.

He is nothing more than a victim of his own selfishness and stupidity. And as you say, prisoners have NO liberty. Meaning they have NO freedoms or RIGHTS while in prison. In fact, depending upon one's crimes they man have most of their rights stripped from them for the rest of their lives! He's lucky society didn't execute him. Some societies execute prisoners for a lot less.

Now don't snivel to me about how bad a prisoner is being treated. Next time, if he ever gets out, he may wish to obey the law. Otherwise tough luck.

455 posted on 02/13/2007 1:05:43 PM PST by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter)
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To: EndWelfareToday
prisoners have NO liberty. Meaning they have NO freedoms or RIGHTS while in prison. In fact, depending upon one's crimes they man have most of their rights stripped from them for the rest of their lives! He's lucky society didn't execute him.

You are a blithering fool. Prisoners certainly do retain many, if not most, basic human rights. An incredibly small percentage can potentially face the death penalty, but even then, we require nearly a decade filled with mandatory hearings and appeals that they are entitled to, simply because they are human. Religious rights, due process rights, hell even the "right" to abortions are all recognized for those behind prison walls.

Some societies execute prisoners for a lot less.

Of course... but we're talking about this society... and in this society, decent people do not defend the notion of gang-rape of anyone, for any reason. With your attitude, you'd do well in a Muslim society that condoned gang raping teenaged girls for perceived slights to male family members. Thankfully, most of America isn't joining up for that kind of society yet.

459 posted on 02/13/2007 1:20:42 PM PST by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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To: EndWelfareToday

> He is nothing more than a victim of his own selfishness and stupidity.

He is a victim of rape. Multiple times. Rape is a serious crime, no matter where it happens or under what circumstances.

> And as you say, prisoners have NO liberty. Meaning they have NO freedoms or RIGHTS while in prison.

Prisoners have basic Human Rights: including the right not to get raped.

> Now don't snivel to me about how bad a prisoner is being treated.

I bet your brand of "Christianity" is lots of fun to follow, ay! You sound more like the Taliban than a real Christian -- in fact, it is attitudes like yours that give Christians a bad name.

Here's one to you, from Jesus:

(Matthew 7 -- the Sermon on the Mount)

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

And later in the Chapter:

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I shall pray for you.
*DieHard*


460 posted on 02/13/2007 1:20:43 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter
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