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'Duped Dad' Bill Could Foster Closer Ties
Denver Rocky Mountain News ^ | 2/12/07 | Mike McCormick and Glenn Sacks

Posted on 02/12/2007 11:18:56 AM PST by PercivalWalks

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1 posted on 02/12/2007 11:18:59 AM PST by PercivalWalks
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To: PercivalWalks

Is this about Chelsea's real father?


2 posted on 02/12/2007 11:20:55 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: PercivalWalks

I wonder how many people here will favor forcing a non-biological duped "dad" to continue paying child support for a kid that isn't his. Because it's for the children, of course.


3 posted on 02/12/2007 11:21:57 AM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs!)
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“Yes, I’m willing to help support the children financially, but you first need to allow me to have a relationship with them.”
4 posted on 02/12/2007 11:22:37 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: PercivalWalks

Legally, Fatherhood is based on blood, unless the Father adopts. It makes sense to give a duped "Father" that right.


5 posted on 02/12/2007 11:22:54 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: PercivalWalks

I notice there is no mention of any type of reimbursement to the "duped dad" for expensives and child support already paid.


6 posted on 02/12/2007 11:25:15 AM PST by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: flashbunny

Seems to me that most female freepers support sticking it to duped guys.


7 posted on 02/12/2007 11:25:44 AM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: PercivalWalks

Is there anything to make the mothers cough up back payment to reimburse the men for this civil wrong?

Oh wait, the women are innocent "victims" in all this.


8 posted on 02/12/2007 11:27:05 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: PercivalWalks

Now this p!sses me off. Again, no matter what, the man is the PERP.

Never mind that some evil, conniving c*** lied like a rug and cheated the guy, now its STILL his fault because he doesn't like being cheated!

How about this as part of the bill, any woman who KNOWINGLY lies about paternity should get FIVE HARD YEARS in the slammer, bunked up with Big Butt Betty the lezzy.

This stuff would come to screeching, grinding halt, yesterday.


9 posted on 02/12/2007 11:27:29 AM PST by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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Editorial Page Editor Vincent Carroll labels these men “the picky type whose parental love depends on a genetic link” and says they seek to throw their nonbiological children “overboard with a minimum of fuss.”

This is simply an appeal to guilt, and to "political correctness".
This is and should remain an individual choice.
"Noble" or patsy. What a choice!
And then there's question of the real criminal in the whole process.

10 posted on 02/12/2007 11:27:30 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: flashbunny
Dr. Laura supports it. She tries to shame any man who'd dare stop being daddy (the "you're the only father that child has" argument).

Of course that man, having no biological tie, has no parental RIGHTS to that child (so he cannot demand visitation privileges).
11 posted on 02/12/2007 11:29:10 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: flashbunny
It currently happens in many states. The court says that regardless of who is the father, the duped dad has established himself as the father and must continue paying child support.

The problem is that many mothers refuse to permit the father (duped or not duped) to have visitation or they are sharply limited. Courts are very reluctant to tackle this issue and it creates great bitterness.

12 posted on 02/12/2007 11:30:11 AM PST by Dave W
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It's been awhile since I've seen a thread on this topic here, but I remember some being in support of forcing continued child support.

What they don't realize is that by forcing a duped dad to pay child support, that is effecting his ability to have children of his own that he can support. So not only is he forced to pay for another man's kid(s), he's being forced into a decision where he either doesn't have his own kids or makes his biological children get by with less.

People who would support something like that make me sick. Mush minded simpletons, driven only by their soft headed emotional thought process.


13 posted on 02/12/2007 11:30:36 AM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs!)
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To: Publius6961

Such decisions for "nonbiological children" may also be laying the groundwork for getting same sex couples to pay "child support" after separation.


14 posted on 02/12/2007 11:31:11 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: flashbunny
What they don't realize is that by forcing a duped dad to pay child support, that is effecting his ability to have children of his own that he can support.

True enough, but what bothers me even more is that the biological father is getting off free-- while some other man pays for the rearing of his child. To read some arguments, you'd think that removing the obligation of the "duped dad" would leave the child without financial support. Just because the husband isn't the biological father does not mean there isn't a biological father out there!

15 posted on 02/12/2007 11:35:04 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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Just because the husband isn't the biological father does not mean there isn't a biological father out there!

This is one aspect studiously avoided in these discussions, because it involves work and unpleasantness and the recognition that, in most cases, the slimeball "mother" knows exactly who the biological father is.

16 posted on 02/12/2007 11:39:26 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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Typical FemiNazi tyranny and deceit. If he is not the dad, the cuckholded dupe should at least get simple justice.


17 posted on 02/12/2007 11:43:40 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: flashbunny
I wonder how many people here will favor forcing a non-biological duped "dad" to continue paying child support for a kid that isn't his. Because it's for the children, of course.

No way should he be FORCED to do any such thing. However, if he truly wants to have a relationship with the child, including one of financial support, but the mother won't allow anything but the financial support...to heck with her.

In most cases, once a man finds out he is not the biological father the decision should be left up to him. I'm sure many will come up with reasons that I can't think of off the top of my head, which is why I said "in most cases."

18 posted on 02/12/2007 11:46:03 AM PST by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: krb

"Seems to me that most female freepers support sticking it to duped guys."

Ex-wives are often like government. They want the money, they want it now and they want all of it.


19 posted on 02/12/2007 11:46:07 AM PST by Jim Verdolini
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To: krb

not this one


20 posted on 02/12/2007 11:46:13 AM PST by AprilfromTexas
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