Posted on 02/12/2007 6:43:36 AM PST by areafiftyone
Thanks for those comments! I am one of those pragmatic conservatives who believe winning is the ultimate goal and don't believe in moral victories.
Dan Quayle IMHO never should have been picked to be the Vice President.
He is a nice enough guy and I will leave it at that.
Frankly, I'm not the one whining, YOU ARE!
Consider it done! :)
"And WHOSE fault is that?"
The media is pushing McPain and Rudy. Why do you suppose they do that?
Are you willing to go along with that? I guess you are Just Going To Shut Up And Take It...
They all hate answering that question.
These Rudyphiles calling us "fake conservatives" is hilarious. They support a thrice-married philanderer who supports abortion, partial birth abortion, stem cell research, gun control, amnesty for illegal border invaders and the homosexual agenda -- and WE are the fake conservatives? LOL!
Reporting Giuliani's past performance and statements is not back mouthing him. And many here haven't decided yet on a candidate. Actually, how can you support Rudy Giuliani when he STILL hasn't made an official announcement?
Like most of your posts this is likely an exaggeration proving nothing but that you are desperate to defeat anyone with a chance of winning the Presidency. I never accept any statement of yours as fact.
"How many Southern social conservatives are going to vote for this guy?" We know who the Blowhards here speak for. NO ONE.
Myths such as this are shown to be false on a consistent basis. Their falsity has no bearing upon those spreading them. This is one reason the candidates they claim to support get no traction.
"You quoted the poster out of context." He does this constantly and never acknowledges what he is doing. Dishonest? Yes. Deceptive? Yes. Surprising? Hell no!
There are posts indicating Rudy is a member of Stonewall Veterans. SV is part of a communist anti-war organization. Which part, if any, is incorrect? Links to sources would be nice.
Seriously, I hope it is wrong. Nobody has shown me it is though. I have only seen evidence it is true.
You may not accept anything i say as fact, that's fine, but you have yet to post anything to refute the facts i have presented.
You like terms like "likely an exaggeration" but go on to say "proving nothing but that you are desperate". OK, o which is it, you admit you have no clue what i am talking about because you are either ignorant or lazy, then you spin it and say i am desparate.
That right there, my friend, is some seriously sleazy debate. You aren't willing to debate, just make personal attacks. You'd do your side of the argument a whole lot better if you'd do some research before saying I am desparate. You'd know what i am talking about and appear a whole lot less ignorant. Until such a time, i consider you merely a troll and intellectually dishonest in the entire debate.
Begone with you, troll.
In case you don't know it, JimRob is in this battle against liberalism all the way. [NSS what a discovery.] As much as I am, as much as any Freeper is, and probably more so. [Please don't equate your pitiful litany of lies with anything Jim has done.] My posting his quote from yesterday was not out of context. [It was simply irrelevant to anything I have said since Jim was NOT under discussion until you dragged his good name in to cover your sorry butt.] And should not be taken as fighting my battles for me either. Your post implied that I was a supporter of Obama over Giuliani. [That implication comes from your guilty conscience.] I support either liberal for POTUS. Look at my post you were replying to and the implication is crystal clear. You've called me a fake conservative before and I'm sure this won't be the last time you so. So be it. [I hold out hope that commonsense will get the upper hand and you will realize the nation is not as conservative as FR.]
Nor we yours.
"The media is pushing McPain and Rudy." Pathetic excuse. Media runs polls with their names in them and to you that is some big conspiracy. Just pathetic.
The FACT is that you have NO credible alternative and just want to take the easy way out and blame THAT on the media. A media which Guiliani would whip into some degree of fairness since it cannot buffalo him nor get the better of him.
Any connection Rudy has with Stonewall Veterans came long before any War much less any anti-war stances. This was debunked long ago by those truly familiar with the details none of which matter to you.
"You like terms like 'likely an exaggeration' but go on to say "proving nothing but that you are desperate". OK, o which is it, you admit you have no clue what i am talking about because you are either ignorant or lazy, then you spin it and say i am desparate." What makes you believe being I have no clue about what you are saying? Exaggeration is a standard tactic of the desperate in any case.
You have an anathema to facts. Distortions, misinformation and outright falsehoods are your stock in trade. But none of those can transform a marginal candidate into a viable one.
Your 'likely an exaggeration' is a hell of an indicator.
You are once again great at sleazy statement and really bad at backing it up.
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