"Back to basics. Please explain how Angelides as governor of CA and Hillary as president of the US would hlep conservatism."
People, people, the primaries are around a year away. It's too early to feel that you have to settle for a lib.
After the primaries it MIGHT NOT EVEN BE BETWEEN Rudy and Hillary.
Remember: If a lib runs against a lib, a lib will be our president.
Rudy is far more Conservative than you believe. You do need to remove your blinders.