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To: dirtboy; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie

Is it any coincidence that the same folks that said aRnie was our best and only hope are now shaking it up here for Rudy?

Rudy has many positives yet, as usual, that completely overrides any negatives that also exist in some eyes, and God forbid you even so much as voice a concern at all.

If you can't see that, then, well, turn in your Progressive pom pms or you will never have a moment of peace here. :-)

I am open to whom runs as the GOP candidate on the ticket , but after a long standing process is completed and not before.

I don't appreciate the Rush to force the feeding tube down my throat and out my rectum and back down my throat and receiving no benefit whatsoever in the process.


Am I the only one who feeels that way?

Boy, I'm glad I turned in when I did last night, I hate missing out on all the fun, but as I now see, I didn't miss a thing, it resulted in the usual claptrap from the same old Progressives amongst us with their latest incarnation and wisdom that you must accept or be lambasted in perpetuity if you don't.

This forum and this country deserves better.



292 posted on 02/12/2007 10:00:45 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; Czar; hedgetrimmer

Well, I have honestly asked for a resume on Rudy from his supporters and all they could give me was he was May of NYC. So I was forced to search on my own. This is getting stinkier and stinkier. Guilani is totally corrupt. Corruption is one of the reasons the Pubbies lost in the last election.

The Republican Party needs to get away from this type big business corruption. This is a loser.


http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=2079

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Bracewell-Giuliani is a registered lobbyist with dozens of clients in Washington, D.C., according to lobbying disclosure records maintained by the Secretary of the Senate. Many of the clients Bracewell-Giuliani lobbies on behalf of have major business before DeLay and the U.S. House of Representatives.

“Owing such sums of money to your defense firm while that firm is a major player in the influence- peddling business in Washington is unseemly and a conflict of interest,” said Joan Claybrook, president of Public Citizen. “To avoid any appearance of corruption, DeLay should get new legal representation.”

Preventing such conflicts of interest is the very purpose of House Rule 25, which prohibits lobbyists from making contributions or loans to an officeholder’s legal defense fund. When a congressman goes substantially into debt to a law firm that is also a lobbyist, there is precisely the same conflict: A lobbyist is financing the officeholder’s legal defense.

DeLay’s cozy relationship with energy lobbyists formed the grounds for his third rebuke from the House ethics committee in October 2004. He had set up a golf outing at The Homestead resort with energy lobbyists who also had business pending before the House, which the ethics committee considered unseemly and which it determined reflected poorly on the House.

Bracewell-Giuliani has lobbied Congress on behalf of several clients that have received favorable treatment from DeLay while the firm also served as DeLay’s defense lawyer. The close nexus between the special interests and legislation sought by a lobbying firm, and the potential for a lobbying firm currying favor with that politician as his legal representative raises an inappropriate appearance of insider influence peddling by the lobbying firm.

Bracewell-Giuliani represents a gamut of energy industry giants with high stakes before Congress. Energy interests that the firm has represented since 2000 include Southern Co., Shell Oil, the Gas Processors Association and the Electric Reliability Coordinating Council, according to lobbying disclosure filings. The Council, in turn, is a large coalition of utilities such as FirstEnergy that lobby for pro-industry policies. Bracewell also employs two leading energy-industry spokespeople, Frank Maisano and Scott Segal.

The lobbying firm also has represented the Oxygenated Fuels Association, which is a coalition of manufacturers of methyl tertiary-butyl ether (MTBE), a fuel additive that is a likely carcinogen and is a known groundwater pollutant. Its manufacturers have lobbied Congress for years for immunity from lawsuits seeking payment for the clean-up of MTBE-contaminated water supplies.

Bracewell-Giuliani received $254,000 from the Oxygenated Fuels Association in 2003 – during which DeLay served as House majority leader – to lobby Congress and federal agencies on “legislation regarding status of MTBE and related issues,” according to lobbying disclosure records. DeLay fought hard for the MTBE manufacturers that year. In November 2003, the energy bill was stalled due to a discrepancy between the House version, which included immunity for MTBE manufacturers, and the Senate version, which did not. President Bush called DeLay and asked him to compromise on the MTBE provision. DeLay, ever faithful to the wishes of the MTBE manufacturers, refused.

“Energy interests got a gusher in the energy bill, and now it appears that they want to keep their best friend in Congress,” said Frank Clemente, director of Public Citizen’s Congress Watch


295 posted on 02/12/2007 10:20:38 AM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: NormsRevenge
Am I the only one who feels that way?

Nope! You're right on target, IMO. Thread after thread for Candidates, and it's the same thing on every one of them. Contentious issues seem to be shoved to the side instead of being discussed. Some have made up their minds and the only objective is to make the other guy look worse. Not everyone is going to think alike and many haven't come close to making a decision, me included. I'd sure like to see the level of discussion raised. But then, I'm an optimist. ;-)

299 posted on 02/12/2007 10:29:51 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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