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To: NYRepublican72
My post at #111 spells out all the facts on Rudy`s final fiscal record as Mayor. Check it out.

Then chew on this.

On the major social issues, there is no distinction between Rudy Giuliani and liberals like Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, Joe Lieberman and Algore. Besides being another big government Republican, AKA. liberal Republican, Rudy Giuliani is:

~ Pro-choice
~ Supports Abortion on Demand
~ Supports Partial Birth Abortion
~ Supports Roe v. Wade
~ Supports Taxpayer Funded Abortions
~ Supports Embryonic Stem Cell Research
~ Opposes a Federal Marriage Amendment
~ Supports Gay Domestic Partnership/Civil Unions
~ Supports Openly Gay Military
~ Opposes Defense of Marriage Act
~ Supports Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens
~ Opposes Tough Penalties for Employers who hire Illegal Aliens
~ Supports Sanctuary Cities/Ignoring Immigration Law
~ Supports gun control and Confiscating firearms
~ Supports an Assault Weapons Ban
~ Initiated Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers Supports
~ Supports Extensive Gun Registration/Licensing

No conservative in his/her right mind would ever support Rudy Giuliani. Liberalism is evil. Rudy would not deliver us from this evil, he would deliver us to it.

183 posted on 02/12/2007 12:22:09 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Reagan Man
I don't deny that Guiliani is a social moderate. I take exception to any comments that he is somehow a Big Government liberal on fiscal issues when his track record in New York City shows otherwise. On the social issues, even taking your argument at face value, Rudy's purported position is unlikely to prevail via either the appointment of liberal activist judges or through successful legislation through Congress.

Also, there's a pragmatic/practicality aspect to Rudy's record whereas the nuiances some of the positions Guiliani had to take while mayor of that liberal cesspool to get his remaining agenda approved. Rudy can wholeheartedly be pro-choice, while at the same time opposing Roe vs. Wade on Constitutional grounds. I'd surmise that if abortion were left to the states, New York would have liberal abortion laws whereas Oklahoma would not. Rudy can be pro-choice and still think that Roe is bad law (which it is). Likewise, it'd be logically consistent for Rudy as a state's right guy to be against legislation federalizing marriage. States rights was a lynchpin in Reagan's philosophy. It's a philosophy I adhere to on issues of choice and gay rights as well.

191 posted on 02/12/2007 12:36:00 AM PST by NYRepublican72
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