they were "illegal guns" - yes, because they couldn't get permits for them. but allow an easy permit process in a place like NYC, and they would. oh sure, we'll revoke that permit after they conduct their first killing or robbery - once they are caught and convicted. again, that's not the expectation people have regarding effective urban policing.
No. Like I said, 21, clean record. Bangers aren't 21 with a clean record.
"we'll revoke that permit after they conduct their first killing or robbery "
LOL! Look at the stats from the concealed carry States, and the stats from NY itself, before Giuliani took away the licenses and the guns from the law abiding in NY. Criminals don't use legal guns, nor do they get permits to carry them to commit felonies.
Again, Giuliani rendered NYers defenseless, and at the mercy of the thugs.