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To: FreeReign
Re: "Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it."
Rudy Giuliani

" No. You don't know if it's a complete summary of what Rudy thinks about "freedom"."

Yeah, I do.

"Rudy may have listed many things when describing what freedom is about."

THat works for dope smokers, BSers, and those that otherwise don't have a clue.

"The number one unalienable right is life and safety. The number one unalienable right for government to protect is life and safety."

No. It's Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Safety is not a right, and no one has any justificaiton to say that there fellows that choose to keep and bear arms are a threat to their life, or health.

Re: Rudy:Over the last century, millions of people from all over the world have come to New York City. They didn’t come here to be taken care of and to be dependent on city government. They came here for the freedom to take care of themselves.

spunkets: That's a pretty misleading quote, since Rudy thinks govm't is there to not only keep people safe, but "to determine what you do, and how you do it.

" What? Your logic is circular. I give you a Rudy quote that shows a fuller context of what Rudy might think freedom means and you revert back to the first single quote with no surrounding context to say that the quote is misleading."

Nothing circular about it. What Rudy says, indicates what he thinks. It's evidence you know. That eveidence applies to an analysis of anything else he says. freedom to take care of themselves? Come on, who wants that? Most of the voters vote according to what they can get in return for their vote. In this instance, he's talking about city services, or perks. I know that, because I felt it in my bones, when I read it. It has nothing to do with what hethinks freedom is. Here, he's simply using it as a buzzword.

396 posted on 02/11/2007 8:06:10 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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To: spunkets
You don't know if it's a complete summary of what Rudy thinks about "freedom".

Yeah, I do.

No you don't.

Rudy may have listed many things when describing what freedom is about.

THat works for dope smokers, BSers, and those that otherwise don't have a clue.

Such as yourself.

424 posted on 02/11/2007 8:29:17 PM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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