Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone
His crack down on crime also got rid of the prostitutes there as well.
His new ADOPTION polices was responsible for many more adoptions and fewer abortions.
But none of that apparently matters to you, I guess.
I read the article and it reads like Liberal endorsement of any Liberal candidate.
Whereas they attempt to tell you how to think and what you really need by giving the appearance of the logical conclusion which if you were smart you would surely agree .
Why there is even a pyramid Wow!
I'm glad Rudy is good on crime and I'm glad he did good on taxes but his moral character and the trust of his desire to uphold the Constitution of the United States is a problem with many!
There is way to much time to just expect us to jump on board with all our compromises!
Republican party will make a BIG mistake if it decides to just take Conservative and Evangelicals for granted!
This is what they would be doing if they nominate Rudy.
Sorry for yelling but this is going to be a long election.
Wow, sounds scary.
WAH, WAH.
You just don't like it when someone parries your lies and myths.
To paraphrase an old Democrat: "I don't give them hell, I tell them the truth and they think it's hell."
From the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research:
"Even with the tax cuts of the last several years, New York remains by far the most heavily taxed big city in the country."
TAXES: Giuliani did cut the marginal city income tax rates, reducing taxes by some $2.0-billion from 1996-2001, but those cuts only offset the $1.8-billion increase in city income tax rates put in place by Mayor Dinkins a few years earlier. In the end, income taxes were actually cut by a modest $200-million. Freezing the 12.5% surcharge on high wage earners was good, but Giuliani didn't attempt to abolish that surcharge. Nor did Giuliani attempt to make serious permanent changes to the city income tax code. The primary reason Rudy and the City Council agreed to cut taxes, was to make NYCity more appealing to new businesses thinking about locating/relocating to the Big Apple. A smart move, however, Rudy left office with NYCity the highest taxed big city in America, with some of the highest income taxes, property taxes and utility rates in the entire nation.
GOVT SPENDING: From 1997 to 2001, spending under Giuliani went up 32%. More then double the rate of inflation. Rudy left NYCity with a $2.0 billion deficit and a $42-billion debt. Second largest debt after the federal government. Giuliani also added 15,000 new teachers to the city employment rolls. Increasing the membership of two major liberal organizations, the National Education Association (NEA) and the American Federation of Teachers (AFT).
"The scope of government was not reduced at all. The mayor abandoned his most visible initiative in this spherethe proposed sale of the city hospital systemafter a struggle with the unions and defeats in the courts. He did cut costs in social services; even before the new federal welfare reforms took effect in 1997, the city had begun to significantly reduce caseloads. But money saved on social services has only helped to subsidize big increases in other categories. Today the array of social services sponsored and partially funded by the cityfrom day care to virtually guaranteed housingis as wide as ever.
"In the final analysis, Mayor Giuliani sought to make the city deliver services more efficientlynot to make the city deliver fewer services. Gains in efficiency were offset, however, by a spike in the costs of outsourced contracts (see point 2 below). Thus, in two areas where inroads might have been made, the city instead failed to reduce spending."
"1. Personnel Increases. In 199596, the city entered into a series of collective bargaining agreements with its public-employee unions. In addition to granting pay increases that ended up roughly equaling inflation, the city promised not to lay off any workers for the life of the contracts. These agreements were expected to add $2.2 billion to the budget by fiscal 2001. But that estimate didnt reckon with renewed growth in the number of city employees. After dipping in Giulianis first two years, the full-time headcount rose from 235,069, in June 1996 to over 253,000 by November 2000. Thanks largely to this growth in the workforce, the total increase in personnel service costs since 1995 has been $4 billion.
2. "Outsourced Services. The failure to shrink the scope of city government made it all the more imperative that Mayor Giuliani vastly increase its efficiency. In the attempt to increase productivity, the mayor farmed out some city services to private contractors. But as the number of outsourced contracts doubled under Giuliani, contractual expenses also nearly doubledfrom $3 billion to $5.8 billion. While it may be argued that the city saved money by outsourcing these services, the net savings turned out to be marginal at best. In practice, outsourcing proved to be more of a bargaining chip in negotiations with unions than a serious means of pruning expenses."
Hard evidence that Rudy Giuliani was NO fiscal conservative. Another run-of-the-mill NYCity liberal.
It will be Rudy vs. Hillary in 2008 if history is any indication. Bush and Gore were the frontrunners two years before the election.
And speaking as an Evangelical I support Rudy wholehartedly. (And Pat Robertson likes him too)
From October 1998
27 October 1998 Bush, Gore early frontrunners
In a CNN/USAToday/Gallup poll released today, Al Gore and George W. Bush were the overwhelming choices for the Democratic and Republican nominations for the presidency. The poll also showed that if the election were held today, Bush would defeat Gore 57-39 among all voters. The results:
Democrats
Al Gore 41%
Bill Bradley 15%
Dick Gephardt 14%
Jesse Jackson 11%
Bob Kerrey 4%
John Kerry 4%
Paul Wellstone 1%
Republicans
George W. Bush 39%
Elizabeth Dole 17%
Dan Quayle 12%
Steve Forbes 7%
Lamar Alexander 4%
John Ashcroft 4%
Newt Gingrich 4%
John Kasich 4%
I never said it was not an acomplishment. If true. I have seen posts to the contrary. Again so what? The dims have been saying for years the same about clintoon. And the price of tea in china is what?
And if he picks his team like he did in NYC with his appointments I can see Sarah Brady as head of ATF?
Who's complaining?
Well, I disagree with both you and Pat Robertson.
When you pick team members like Bernie Kerik, you show that you are wanting in the judgement department.
IF you're a gun and 2nd Amendment-hating, abortion-supporting, illegal-loving liberal demonRAT or RINO.
Sorry, but if you are, in fact, going to vote for RINO-rudy, then I believe you are HEAVY on the "meathead", and LIGHT on the "conservative".
Reminds me of the folks around here who claim we shouldn't worry about huge spending increases because the focus is on fighting terror. As though the president is totally incapable of dealing with more than one subject at a given time.
That kind of "logic" has never made any sense to me. There's no reason we can't fight terror, appoint strict constructionist judges, and protect gun rights at the same time.
Yes, thank YOU for admitting what you and your side does. ;^)
Hi -
I haven't been coming on, because as a Rudy supporter, it's disheartening to see the same spam constantly a few people ...to the point of calling posters liars, by the anti Rudy coalition. I think Jim R has made it clear on where he stands with Rudy Giuliani - and I appreciate that he is, while not supportive of Rudy, defintely allowing FR to be a place to disuss Rudy's candidacy.
So that's my perspective.
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