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An experiment that hints we are wrong on climate change
The Times (of London) ^ | February 11, 2007 | Nigel Calder, former editor of New Scientist

Posted on 02/11/2007 2:45:07 AM PST by alnitak

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Would be interested in seeing the temperature curve from those "American weather satellites" if anybody knows where it is.
1 posted on 02/11/2007 2:45:11 AM PST by alnitak
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1782857/posts

Amusing quote at the very end of the post.


2 posted on 02/11/2007 2:53:58 AM PST by BenLurkin
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Bump


3 posted on 02/11/2007 3:07:45 AM PST by DB
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Oh nonsense! What does he know, he's only a Scientist.

Al Gore told us that he knows for sure!

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4 posted on 02/11/2007 3:14:25 AM PST by Bon mots (Nancy Pelosi wants to use 24,000 gallons of fuel per trip to work in her very own C-32!)
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this theory would explain why there has been warming on other planets in our solar system


5 posted on 02/11/2007 3:16:04 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (Find out what brand the Ethiopians are drinking and send a case to all my generals.)
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Bump, for later re-reading and printing.


6 posted on 02/11/2007 3:20:29 AM PST by FairWitness
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Great article. Thanks for posting.

I've always theorized (in the last 30 seconds) that global warming is coming fast and furious due to the recent additional appliance, the microwave. Too many people are heating things up. We should ban them. /sarcasm (just my convenient opinion)


7 posted on 02/11/2007 3:30:03 AM PST by PGalt
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This is also amusing - my kind of thinker.

(Got a problem? Blame Global Warming)

8 posted on 02/11/2007 3:33:45 AM PST by yoe ("Take No Prisoners" has a lovely ring to it...............)
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There's nothing new about "the experts" being wrong on environmental issues.

9 posted on 02/11/2007 3:33:53 AM PST by Heatseeker
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Some politicians are going as far as advocating that it be made a crime for anyone to question the politically correct notion of global warming. I won't accuse Al Gore of that because I have not heard of him advocating that -- yet, at least. The global warming scare is part of a new religious inquisition. Four hundred years ago Galileo was persecuted for, among other things, mentioning sunspots. Today, scientists again may be persecuted for mentioning things such as sunspots.


10 posted on 02/11/2007 3:49:05 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Would be interested in seeing the temperature curve from those "American weather satellites" if anybody knows where it is.

 

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/MSU/msusci.html

lower tropospheric temps chart

This chart shows the monthly temperature changes for the lower troposphere - Earth's atmosphere from the surface to 8 km, or 5 miles up. The temperature in this region is more strongly influenced by oceanic activity, particularly the "El Niño" and "La Niña" phenomena, which originate as changes in oceanic and atmospheric circulations in the tropical Pacific Ocean. The overall trend in the tropospheric data is now +0.08 deg. C/decade (through 2004). Click on the charts to get the numerical data.


11 posted on 02/11/2007 4:07:21 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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My friend said that warm weather makes women "Hotter" then usual..

Dispute her global warming trend!

12 posted on 02/11/2007 4:28:57 AM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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this theory would explain why there has been warming on other planets in our solar system

No. The temperature change on Mars is sympathetic warming in response to the temperature rise on Earth. This is easily explained by the Gaia hypothesis, which is now known to be valid for the inner planets of the solar system, and perhaps even more broadly.

13 posted on 02/11/2007 4:29:52 AM PST by sphinx
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a 10% uncertainty in any theory is a wide open breach

Which leads to the next series of questions; what other scientific "facts" are at the 90% level of surety? And, are there any standards in the scientific community on how uncertain the truth needs to be before it becomes accepted as fact?

14 posted on 02/11/2007 4:32:38 AM PST by Bernard (Immigration should be rare, safe and legal.)
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The best measurements of global air temperatures come from American weather satellites, and they show wobbles but no overall change since 1999.

That's an inconvenient truth that will never be reported in the MSM's global warming jihad.

15 posted on 02/11/2007 5:03:42 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Thanks, interesting how the global warming hysteria correlates with the recent warm spell...if we get a colder spell I wonder how the global warming prophets will explain it!


16 posted on 02/11/2007 6:05:11 AM PST by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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After long delays in scraping together the funds for an experiment, Svensmark and his small team at the Danish National Space Center hit the jackpot in the summer of 2005. . . . But journal after journal declined to publish their report; the discovery finally appeared in the Proceedings of the Royal Society late last year.

"Peer review" has a way of filtering out politically incorrect science, either by limiting funding or by hindering publication.

17 posted on 02/11/2007 6:22:41 AM PST by Logophile
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To: alnitak; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; Mrs. Don-o; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off

Click graphic for full GW rundown

18 posted on 02/11/2007 6:25:24 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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And, heaven forbid, never give Bush credit for insisting on collecting more data. The denier at MIT says Bush knows more about this than anyone in DC.


19 posted on 02/11/2007 6:27:09 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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They won't explain it, they will simply become global cooling prophets.

And it's all your fault!


20 posted on 02/11/2007 6:30:54 AM PST by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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