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Rudy Giuliani: Supply-Sider-in-Chief
Human Events ^ | Feb. 9, 2007 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 02/10/2007 9:26:03 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion

I'm voting for Rudy; and if I am I think most are.


41 posted on 02/10/2007 9:54:57 PM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Sad, but true. After all "SHE CAN WIN," right?

*retch*


42 posted on 02/10/2007 9:55:44 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: FairOpinion
Got yourself a brand spanking new RINO to promote?

Rudy McRomney scored a combined 25% in the last FR poll.

See tag line.

43 posted on 02/10/2007 9:56:31 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

All these people telling us how "conservative" they are, while they bash nonstop any Republican who has any chance of beating the Dems but NEVER, NEVER criticize Democrats.

Makes one wonder as to their real credentials, as you implied.


44 posted on 02/10/2007 9:57:46 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: FairOpinion
Schwarzenegger vetoed many of the socialist bills the Dem Legislature passed, people keep ignoring that --

Schwarzenegger's vetos are few and far between. Now he's foisting socialized medicine for illegals.

45 posted on 02/10/2007 9:58:00 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: EternalVigilance

Or a "T", ( for the punch bowl condiment)


46 posted on 02/10/2007 9:58:25 PM PST by Beagle8U (Fred Thompson......Your party needs you !)
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To: Porterville
From your home page:

"Facts are stubborn things; and what ever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they can not alter the state of facts, and evidence." - John Adams

Rudolph Giuliani is nearly 100% in phase with the Democrat plaform, and almost 100% out of phase with the Republican platform. And them's the facts, Jack.

47 posted on 02/10/2007 9:58:41 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: PhilDragoo; narses
"America's Mayor" cut or killed 23 levies, saving taxpayers $9.8 billion. Giuliani pared Gotham's top income-tax rate by 20.6%. Washington, D.C.'s CFO reported that between 1993 and 2001, local taxes on a family of four New Yorkers earning $50,000 fell 23.7%.

Great post!
BUMP!

48 posted on 02/10/2007 10:00:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Darkwolf377
Just because Tancredo talks about and gets noticed on mostly one issue doesn't mean he is a one issue candidate (which is still higher than the viable zero issue republican candidates running.)

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) was awarded the Taxpayers’ Friend Award for 2005 by the National Taxpayers Union. Tancredo’s score by the group ranks him as the third most fiscally conservative Member of the House of Representatives. Tancredo has won the award every year since he was elected to Congress.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1584795/posts

See also:

Tancredo Wins String of Conservative Awards

49 posted on 02/10/2007 10:00:13 PM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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To: NapkinUser
OMG! Its another article by one of the biggest Rudy shills around. Deroy "The Butt Kisser" Murdock LOL

Now the real Rudy record.

From the Manhattan Institute for POlicy Research:

TAXES: Giuliani did cut the marginal city income tax rates, reducing taxes by some $2.0-billion from 1996-2001, but those cuts only offset the $1.8-billion increase in city income tax rates put in place by Mayor Dinkins a few years earlier. In the end, taxes were actually cut by a modest $200-million. Freezing the 12.5% surcharge on high wage earners was good, but Giuliani didn't attempt to abolish that surcharge. Nor did Giuliani attempt to make serious permanent changes the city income tax code. The primary reason Rudy and the City Council agreed to cut taxes, was to make NYCity more appealing to new businesses thinking about locating/relocating to the Big Apple. A smart move, however, Rudy left office with NYCity the highest taxed big city in America, with some of the highest income taxes, property taxes and utility rates in the entire nation.

GOVERNMENT SPENDING: From 1997 to 2001, spending under Giuliani went up 32%. More then double the rate of inflation. Rudy left NYCity with a $2.0 billion deficit and a $42-billion debt. Second largest debt after the federal government. Giuliani also added 15,000 new teachers to the city employment rolls. Increasing the membership of two major liberal organizations, the National Education Association (NEA) and the American Federation of Teachers (AFT).

"The scope of government was not reduced at all. The mayor abandoned his most visible initiative in this sphere—the proposed sale of the city hospital system—after a struggle with the unions and defeats in the courts. He did cut costs in social services; even before the new federal welfare reforms took effect in 1997, the city had begun to significantly reduce caseloads. But money saved on social services has only helped to subsidize big increases in other categories. Today the array of social services sponsored and partially funded by the city—from day care to virtually guaranteed housing—is as wide as ever.

"In the final analysis, Mayor Giuliani sought to make the city deliver services more efficiently—not to make the city deliver fewer services. Gains in efficiency were offset, however, by a spike in the costs of outsourced contracts (see point 2 below). Thus, in two areas where inroads might have been made, the city instead failed to reduce spending."

"1. Personnel Increases. In 1995–96, the city entered into a series of collective bargaining agreements with its public-employee unions. In addition to granting pay increases that ended up roughly equaling inflation, the city promised not to lay off any workers for the life of the contracts. These agreements were expected to add $2.2 billion to the budget by fiscal 2001. But that estimate didn’t reckon with renewed growth in the number of city employees. After dipping in Giuliani’s first two years, the full-time headcount rose from 235,069, in June 1996 to over 253,000 by November 2000. Thanks largely to this growth in the workforce, the total increase in personnel service costs since 1995 has been $4 billion.

2. "Outsourced Services. The failure to shrink the scope of city government made it all the more imperative that Mayor Giuliani vastly increase its efficiency. In the attempt to increase productivity, the mayor farmed out some city services to private contractors. But as the number of outsourced contracts doubled under Giuliani, contractual expenses also nearly doubled—from $3 billion to $5.8 billion. While it may be argued that the city saved money by outsourcing these services, the net savings turned out to be marginal at best. In practice, outsourcing proved to be more of a bargaining chip in negotiations with unions than a serious means of pruning expenses."

As the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research said: "Even with the tax cuts of the last several years, New York remains by far the most heavily taxed big city in the country."

Proof that Rudy Giuliani was NO fiscal conservative.

50 posted on 02/10/2007 10:00:13 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: FairOpinion
All these people telling us how "conservative" they are, while they bash nonstop any Republican who has any chance of beating the Dems but NEVER, NEVER criticize Democrats.

Once again, you show your tendency to outright lie. I count three in that one sentence.

1. Giuliani is no Republican.

2. We criticize Democrats all the time...even Rudy.

3. Giuliani has no chance of beating the Dems. He'll destroy the Reagan coalition before the General Election even kicks off.

51 posted on 02/10/2007 10:01:58 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: EternalVigilance

Still voting for him... so are most Republicans... He's our next President... Sue...


52 posted on 02/10/2007 10:02:30 PM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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To: BunnySlippers
Here we go again :^)

Don't worry; I've got plenty to go around!

53 posted on 02/10/2007 10:02:39 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel-Robert Frost)
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To: narses; Admin Moderator

Do any known Giuliani-supporters troll and spam, say, Duncan Hunter threads?


54 posted on 02/10/2007 10:02:39 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: Lancey Howard

Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:

--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989

--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett

--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997

--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
55 posted on 02/10/2007 10:02:49 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: EternalVigilance; Porterville

"Rudolph Giuliani is nearly 100% in phase with the Democrat plaform, and almost 100% out of phase with the Republican platform."

Those are NOT the FACTS. It's the "BIG LIE". It's what the Democrats would like Republicans to believe so they will nominate someone the Clinton machine can roll over. They learned from 2006 that "divide and conquer" works, not to mention from 1992, when the Perot voters gave us 8 years of Bill Clinton and launched Hillary's political career.


56 posted on 02/10/2007 10:03:07 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: FairOpinion

Guliani will come a cropper same as your Arnold Schwarzenegger. Only this time it will be the entire United States that gets screwed


57 posted on 02/10/2007 10:03:15 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: dennisw

In CA the choice was Arnold or Bustamante, then Arnold vs. Angelides.

For the US in 2008 it is most likely to be Rudy vs. Hillary.

Are you saying that Bustamante and Angelides would have been better for CA and Hillary would be better for the US?


58 posted on 02/10/2007 10:04:40 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: IslandJeff

Truth is 'spam'? How Orwellian!


59 posted on 02/10/2007 10:05:05 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: EternalVigilance

If anyone's destroyed the Reagan coalition it's Bush and his big-government, nannystating buddies in the GOP.


60 posted on 02/10/2007 10:05:17 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel-Robert Frost)
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