Giuliani Strikes a Note With California GOP [4 Ovations]

Wshington Post ^ | 02/10/07 | John Pomfret

[BunnySlippers]

Giuliani Strikes a Note With California GOP Testing the Waters, Former N.Y. Mayor Garners 4 Ovations

SACRAMENTO, Feb. 10 -- Rudolph W. Giuliani came west to learn whether his brand of Republican politics has a chance among party members significantly more conservative than himself. By the time he had received a fourth standing ovation Saturday at the California Republican Party convention, the answer seemed clear.

Equating the U.S. fight against terrorism with the Civil War and the Cold War, Giuliani told about 750 of his party's faithful that failure in Iraq would turn that country into a "massive headquarters for terrorism."

"Having had a job where I didn't have any choice but to make a decision," the former mayor of New York said, "prepares you as best you can be prepared to be the president of the United States."

[DKNY]

Oh sorry, its late here and my eyes are going...LOL. Too much caffeine tonight!

[janetgreen]

OTOH, I am even MORE sick of Babe, who the Satin Slayer got in the last second, on Friday.

I'm don't much like her either, but how about the possibility that her abduction might be a fake, somehow a setup to catch the killer?

I don't like how AMC is getting rid of some of the old characters (Brooke, David, now Dixie). If they kill off Adam, I'm turning it off for good.

[Cincinna]

To put it bluntly, your chart is crap.

Posting it over and over by cutting and pasting on every thread doesn't make it any less crap.

It tells us you don't have an original thought or opinion in your head.

SPAM away! You are just turning everybody off.

[Cincinna]

Let's get real here about the power of the Presidency to affect abortion.

We have had almost 16 years of strong pro-life Presidents. Abortion is still available, abortion is still legal.

The best that can ber hoped for is the appointment of Judges to the SC OTUS who will interpret the Constitution, not rewrite it.

Rudy has stated time and again what kind of judges he would appoint- "in the mold of Scalia, Roberts, and Alito".

That is good enough for me.

If Rudy is the best candidate who can keep Her Heinous, Queen Hillary from claiming her throne, so be it.

Stop the insanity now!

[FreeReign]

No. Let the record show that I think Rudy has three "social issues" problems. Let the record also show that when somebody says that Rudy is liberal on "all social issues", and Rudy is clearly not, let the record show that I'm going to correct that false claim.

If you basically agree with me, then why did you start, what amounts to, a mini flame war? That is the mark of a craven troublemaker!

What part of the above in bold I'm-going-to-correct-that-false-claim don't you understand. That means that I don't agree with you. That means that I think that you are saying something that is wrong and that I'm going to correct it. That doesn't mean that we "basically agree" and it doesn't mean that I'm arguing for the sake of arguing.

Do you actually have a problem with that? Do you actually think that is being augmentative? LOL! How absurd.

Maybe you just don't get things.

That's the mark of a dunce.

[paudio]

I'm a pro-life conservative, but abortion is not the only thing that concerns me.

[nopardons]

Nope, the Babe thing and the killing of her new body guard are NOT part of any trap. It's for real.

Brooke really hasn't had much of a part in a very long time.

I never liked David, so I'm glad he;s gone.

OTOH, I am completely distraught that they killed Dixie off; especially since Kathy is really KATE and has NO business being with Julia; NONE!

Supposedly Zach is leaving ( except they keep saying that and not doing it ) and either Kendal or Babe IS going to die! Both of them will be attacked by the SATIN SLAYER; only one will live. I hope Babe is the one killed off, but I have a terrible feeling that it will be Kendal, which means that Spike will then go to Ryan, who will stray with Annie, who I loathe!

[nopardons]

THANK YOU !

[nopardons]

It wasn't a "shot" and yes, I completely dismiss the opinion of a child; especially one who is biased as you are.

The post that I am now replying to, has quite a different tone and far more substance than your first.

I was politically active at your age and had a VERY good/reliable "gut reaction". Unlike you, I was able to see all sides and speak to them; however, I would never have thought it proper to get into a political debate with adults. Rather, I would listen to what those who knew more than I did, had to say, ponder their words, take from them what I could, and discard that which I knew wasn't worth much.

And even though 18 year olds can vote now, I don't give them much credence either.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>That's the mark of a dunce.

Right. I see you're as confused as you've ever been. We have a history that goes back years and years. Through all that time, you haven't changed, you haven't grown. Here we are, common ground exists between us, yet you want to ignore it. That serves no good purpose.

>>>>I said way back on my first post of this thread that Rudy has an abortion, 2A and illegal immigration problem.

So let me get this right. We're not in basic agreement that Rudy is wrong on abortion, 2nd amendment and illegal immigration? Even though our rhetoric is in agreement. Okay.

You said:

"That doesn't mean that we "basically agree" and it doesn't mean that I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. Do you actually have a problem with that? Do you actually think that is being augmentative?

Yeah, I think that is being purposely argumentative and your contradictory remarks show signs of a serious language or comprehension problem on your part. Now you've backed your self into a corner. What's next?

There are many subjects/topics contained on my list of major social issues that could be debated. You want to boil them down to three issues and ignore all the rest. Kind of leaves you standing around with no way out. And looking real foolish to boot. It'll be interesting to see how you extricate yourself from this dilemma. I'll enjoy watching. Carry on.

[familyop]

So? It's California. Why should that surprise us? He gets the same kind of support in New York. It's nothing more than a movement to get Hillary elected by depriving Republican voters of a conservative choice.

[familyop]

"DO NOT, underestimate how EVIL the average soccer mom is. They're out campaigning for leftists while their husbands are looking for jobs."

Since the ratification of the 19th Amendment, our country has sunk more gradually into socialism and social confusion.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Comparing Rudy to Denethor just proves he doesn't know anything about Rudy ~or~ The Lord of the Rings.

The face of the "Republicans" who claim it is either him or Mrs. Clinton, believing the media hype...

Big city mayor, hungry for power... under a liberal spell...

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

...at least you weren't trying to claim his is Sauron.

No, that is George Soros...

[stockpirate]

My new tagline says it all.

I wonder why the talk show hosts are starting to support him when he is only a RINO.

[Corin Stormhands]

Theoden was under the spell of Saruman. Not Denethor.

Denethor was weakened by Sauron because he had seen into the pilantir and his own "greatness" was threatened. He was a pretender to the throne who was willing to surrender in the end.

He would never have kicked a terrorist out of Minis Tirith or returned a check to the king of the southern kingdoms.

[Alia]

Ping.

[petercooper]

bttt

[Alia]

Arnold tried - as I recall, the people of CA voted down all his referendum initiatives on budget issues and reform of municipal worker pensions and such.

If they bothered to vote at all.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Denethor was the big city mayor under the spell of Sauron...