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Chips are down, and so is V-22
DelvoTimes.Com [PA] ^ | 02/10/2007 | WILLIAM BENDER

Posted on 02/10/2007 7:48:10 AM PST by brityank

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1 posted on 02/10/2007 7:48:12 AM PST by brityank
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To: Tribune7




Ping.


2 posted on 02/10/2007 7:49:04 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

Bad chip in the BIT computer (in this case) and the USAF finding lots of BIT failures last summer?

Might (just maybe) be connected. One hot, one cold, but extreme temperatures both ways.


3 posted on 02/10/2007 7:51:19 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: brityank

Ya cant blame the manufacturer. The Gov lays out the specs.

We test to -15F


4 posted on 02/10/2007 7:55:22 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: brityank

I know the technology involved in this beast is a nightmare of complication, but you would think that an aircraft in development as long as this one has been would have the kinks worked out by now.

And by the way - can anyone share with me the specific roll this aircraft could play that isn't already covered by more "conventional" aircraft? Seems like a rather expensive game if it truly isn't going to be any better than what we already have...


5 posted on 02/10/2007 7:56:05 AM PST by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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It doesn't look like it wants to fly.


6 posted on 02/10/2007 7:58:50 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: TheBattman

They come pre-painted with a bullseye on them.


7 posted on 02/10/2007 7:59:47 AM PST by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks boat steersman hell)
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To: TheBattman

Insertion of SOF typs way beyond helicopter range.

Better yet, extraction of them is combat zones.

The old method was "verticle extraction." You float a rope on a balloon, and a C-130 flys by and catches the rope, snatching you out of the jungle.

Watch out for trees.


8 posted on 02/10/2007 8:01:23 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: Hostel

PING to her husband who works on these birds for DynCorp


9 posted on 02/10/2007 8:03:37 AM PST by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: brityank

"due to a computer chip that couldn’t stand the cold. "

You would think that would be part of testing 101 for a manufacturer.


10 posted on 02/10/2007 8:04:09 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: patton

Watch out for whiplash!


11 posted on 02/10/2007 8:04:32 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: LiveFree99

No kidding. LOL.


12 posted on 02/10/2007 8:05:28 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

"Testing 101"

It is and thats how it was found. I think you will see similar problems identified in other types of aircraft including commercial aircraft before this is all over.

Problem is that the aircraft has to be cold soaked. In other words, sitting outside without any systems running in below freezing weather.


13 posted on 02/10/2007 8:15:38 AM PST by e_castillo
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To: brityank

I know this bird has had its share of problems, but there is something good to be said about the design, at least of the onboard management systems, that this malfunction was caught before it resulted in a crash. Sure, it should have been caught way earlier, before these chips even left the manufacturer, IMHO.

No machine made by humans is ever going to be perfect, but at least the designed-in redundancy was working and detected a real problem that can be easily fixed.

I have mixed feelings on the Ospry. If they can get it to work reliably, it will be an awesome asset for the Marines, as well as the other services, and plenty of civilian organizations. If not, its going to be a hugely expensive boondoggle. I hope its the former.


14 posted on 02/10/2007 8:16:02 AM PST by CertainInalienableRights
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To: brityank

I wouldn't want to fly on one.


15 posted on 02/10/2007 8:17:00 AM PST by SIDENET (No votes for RINOs.)
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To: brityank

Maybe Al Gore can heat the chips up with a "global warming" speech.


16 posted on 02/10/2007 8:19:19 AM PST by reg45
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To: TheBattman

So, name another aircraft that can carry 20 troops at 300mph, take off and land vertically, and in case of an engine failure while cruising, actually glide instead of falling out of the sky like a Sea Knight/brick.


As "bad" as the Osprey is, it's still far better than the CH-46 Sea Knight, and it's killed less Marines.


17 posted on 02/10/2007 8:20:15 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: brityank; A.A. Cunningham

No biggie. These kinds of issues happen more than you think with newly fielded equipment.


18 posted on 02/10/2007 8:20:18 AM PST by TADSLOS (Iran is in the IED exporting business. Time to shut them down.)
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To: SIDENET

I'd rather fly on an Osprey than a CH-46, which is the aircraft it's replacing.

I've been on a Sea Knight, and it's *really* frightening - especially when the ONE turbine sputters on landing...


19 posted on 02/10/2007 8:21:30 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TheBattman
The primary use is "over the horizon" deployment. Transport ships can remain out of sight, out of radar range, and out of surface fired gun and missile range, while the V-22 speeds in, much faster than a helo, to insert troops.

While true that there are still kinks to work out, the military thinks in terms of trade offs. Lose one V-22 and all the troops and crew aboard, or lose an amphibious assault ship and all of it's crew, marines, and equipment.

It's cold and heartless, but that is the nature of war.
20 posted on 02/10/2007 8:21:47 AM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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