[cmotormac44]

And with that attitude none of you will survive for long---I spent 5 years in WW2 sometimes with some folks I wasn't too crazy about(and some of them most likely felt that way about me)BUT we worked together since we understood that protection of our collectives asses depended on each other---Americans better get their act together damned fast or suffer the consequences

[reformedliberal]

How do you expect women, children and the elderly to fight the government when they see that government railroad the people who are supposed to be protecting us, like US Marines, Border Patrol and even ordinary LEO?

It isn't about the citizenry working together, unless you mean that we need to begin a citizens insurrection against the government, which has the manpower and the weapons, not to mention the law, on its side.

The media has often quoted our children and our grandchildren saying that anyone who doesn't agree with them is just *too old* to understand and that after we are gone, they will be able to have the world they want. This evidently refers to their desiring to live without ever acting in self defense or allow anyone else to do so. These same young Americans deride the idea that we even need to be protected against anything except conservatives, the religious and the patriotic.

I agree that we will suffer the consequences, but for many of us, it will be at the hand of the younger generations of America. In the interim, it is just about all most of us can do to keep ourselves independent, healthy and below the radar.