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To: Nevernow
That's not true. The majority of threads I've read on FR are critisizing the fact that it hasn't been tested enough.

Okay. Now is that a cover for other concerns or not. Obviously, you are mostly concerned about the health aspects, you come across as thoughtful. But I think that if your views were more widespread, at least some people would criticize the person who claimed that Rick Perry had called all the girls in Texas wh--res.

If the government can't push birth control on people, it shouldn't be able to push an anti-STD vaccine on people,

Your comparison is not sound. Some people do want children (and don't want birth control), but I can't think of any individual who would want an STD.

though it does. Look at Hepatitis B.

I'm not sure that's right. But giving HPV-vaccines (after adequate testing) is right, since boys don't get it by having sex.

It's emotional language to say, "You want girls to have cancer as punishment for sex," not logical language, by the way.

Close to that. That's the impression I get. Especially people who claim that this encourages promiscuity. Apparantly, getting cancer should be a risk of having sex, otherwise, it encourages having many sexual relations.

or because you think it's putting your children at sexual risk by misrepresenting the benefits of this to children

That should not be a problem, since you're in a position to tell them the truth.
98 posted on 02/09/2007 3:58:51 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: LtdGovt

Birth control like condoms can protect against STDs, though. The government can't force that on people. If they can't force that on people, they shouldn't force vaccines, which are more dangerous, on people. It's not just against the wishes of the parents here. It's against the wishes of the girls themselves. It's like I said...if I had been made to take it or drop out of school, I would have dropped out of school. I don't want to be a lab rat.

Perry did basically say they would all have sex. People corrected the w word with the sl word, but I actually agree with them. Assuming that girls need this mandated to them and can't be given the option is assuming that all these girls are going to put themselves at risk. I found it offensive, but that's personal, I daresay he meant it differently.

Parents doing this for pure religious reasons don't want their daughters to have it as punishment for sex, but because they're sure they've raised daughters who won't have sex and will be put at risks from side effects for something that they don't need to be protected from in the first place.

If there were enough people telling girls the true protection they get, there wouldn't be so many misconceptions among girls. It is dangerous misrepresentation, and since it exists, it obviously is a problem.


102 posted on 02/09/2007 4:07:43 PM PST by Nevernow (No one has the right to choose to do what is wrong.)
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To: LtdGovt

But giving HPV-vaccines (after adequate testing) is right, since boys don't get it by having sex.
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What? HPV is a sexually transmitted disease. How do you think boys do get it?


107 posted on 02/09/2007 4:18:59 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: LtdGovt
I'm not sure that's right. But giving HPV-vaccines (after adequate testing) is right, since boys don't get it by having sex.

So how do they get it?

Born with it?

Osmosis?

118 posted on 02/09/2007 4:37:51 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: LtdGovt

I am not a religious anti-vaccination person. I don't believe a girl having this vaccine or not will be a factor as to whether has sex. I sincerely doubt my daughter will be pure as the driven snow on her wedding night and would never think her husband would be. I have raised that point on other threads.

I have a problem with politicians that, let's face it, will ALL have to be screwed into the ground when they die because they are ALL so crooked. According to research being thrown out by the drug company, 80% of women have this virus. Let's say for the sake of argument there are 100,000,000 sexually active women in this country. That means that 80,000,000 have this virus or have had it (it is proved that most (90%?) women's bodies fight it on their own successfully) and 3,900 women died from it last year. Work out the percentage of that and get back to me as to why the government is mandating this vaccination on my daughter. They are mandating an unnecessary vaccine for a virus that can easily be tested for during a yearly pelvic exam and pap smear and treated in a half hour appointment. That is according to the CDC! Politicians feel good when they say it is an anti cancer vaccine, I mean really, who isn't against cancer. But don't force an injection on me or my daughter because some women are too stupid to go to the doctor once a year or two.


156 posted on 02/09/2007 6:58:42 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (I'm shocked the gov't hasn't found an average consumption equation to tax breast milk.)
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