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The Enemy at Home: Dinesh D’Souza Takes Sides in the War on Terror—Osama bin Laden's Side
The Stranger ^ | February 5, 2007 | Bruce Bawer

Posted on 02/09/2007 4:42:33 AM PST by Eurotwit

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1 posted on 02/09/2007 4:42:35 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

Having not read the book, I would find it most difficult to take this reviewers interpretation.


2 posted on 02/09/2007 4:46:15 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: Eurotwit

Looks to me like this "probably" queer writer (author of the article) really hates Dinesh.


3 posted on 02/09/2007 4:48:54 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: OldFriend

because they are trying to trash him for speaking the truth.


4 posted on 02/09/2007 4:50:33 AM PST by Perdogg (Happy 2007)
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To: Perdogg

I have always found Dinesh to be most reasonable when he appears on various shows, altho I did catch Glenn Beck having a meltdown when he began his segment with Dinesh....CLICK! Have no idea how that went.


5 posted on 02/09/2007 4:55:45 AM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: Eurotwit
Bawer is gay, so he's talking his book, as Wall Streeters say; however, he's right about D'Souza's inexplicable soft-pedaling of some of islam's more depraved aspects. As usual, Robert Spencer nails it:
The D’Souza Follies

6 posted on 02/09/2007 4:57:18 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Eurotwit

It's not an either or. We don't have to object to either the radical gay agenda or Islamic fascism. We can sensibly reject BOTH.


7 posted on 02/09/2007 5:01:45 AM PST by olderwiser
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To: snarks_when_bored

bump for later read


8 posted on 02/09/2007 5:02:01 AM PST by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: GulfBreeze; All

Bruce Bawer is gay and is the author of "While Europe slept".

Albeit charaterizing myself as a social conservative, I still don't want the government to impose a state authorized morality upon people.

That is, I lean libertarian and think morality is a highly personal issue, and any government attempts to enforce morality will inevitebly tend to lead to faux morality, hypocracy and corruption.

As for Dinesh, I find his argument (not having read the book, mind you) wrongheaded on two accounts.

1 - It is simply not credible that such a change he advocated would appease (deliberate choice of word) our enemies

2 - To my mind, even suggesting that we should change our way of life in order to let these bullies leave us alone is repulsive to me as a freedomloving patriot.

Cheers.


9 posted on 02/09/2007 5:02:38 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI - CSC)
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To: snarks_when_bored
As usual, Robert Spencer nails it

He certainly does! BTTT!

10 posted on 02/09/2007 5:04:18 AM PST by PGalt
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To: All

Oh, and let me add a third point:

3 - The blame for 911 belongs squarely on the head of bin Laden et al. and their Saudi enablers.


Cheers


11 posted on 02/09/2007 5:04:45 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI - CSC)
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To: OldFriend
This interpretation is a complete mischaracterization of Dinesh's views. I read "The End of Racism" and have followed his writing for some years. Dinesh's does not condone the Muslim world's duplicity and corrupt immorality, he just abhors what he sees in the West.
12 posted on 02/09/2007 5:05:00 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: olderwiser

I agree, but not with D-Souza line of agument behind it.

Fighting the gay agenda does not in my church involve joining forces with people who literally want gay people's heads on stakes.

Cheers.


13 posted on 02/09/2007 5:06:43 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI - CSC)
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To: Eurotwit

Call me old fashioned, but I would like to live in a free society where people are allowed to make their own opinions on what is moral. A society where people have a choice to watch Jerry Springer or the Disney channel. To blame America's "moral depravity" for Islamofacism is an absolute joke and D'Souza deserves to ripped for it. What do you think? If we went back to the "Leave It To Beaver" (as so many Freepers long for) days, the Muzzies would lay down their arms and say, "Gee, those infidels really ain't that bad." Look at the Jews in Israel, many of them are ultra-Orthodox, you don't see a slow down in Mohammeds wanting to blow them up. An infidel is an infidel is an infidel.


14 posted on 02/09/2007 5:08:09 AM PST by jcs1744
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To: snarks_when_bored

Spencer on Bennett's show right now.


15 posted on 02/09/2007 5:10:25 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("and alllll the children are insane")
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Thanks...


16 posted on 02/09/2007 5:12:40 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
There's an interview with D'Souza in the latest Crisis magazine on this topic. I have only skimmed it at this point ... I got the impression that he's pretty much spot-on regarding cultural decadence in the West, but that he gives the islamics 'WAY too much credit for decency and honesty. And I don't think his theories can account for the Paris rioting, the London tube bombings, the protest signs threatening to impose sharia on the West, etc.

He's quite right that we need to clean up our act. But we need to do so because it's the right thing to do, not because it will appease the mohammedans (which won't happen no matter what we do).

17 posted on 02/09/2007 5:13:23 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
D'Souza is a great guy, but his inexplicable soft-pedaling, as you call it, is quite explicable. He's toeing the Bush Adminstration line. The one that seeks to avoid global conflict with Islam by whitewashing the bad parts, attacking the hostile parts, and stretching reality to find common ground.

If you think about it, D'Souza's position is simply a more in-depth restating of President Bush's "It's a religion of peace" rhetoric. Certainly, D'Souza deserves no less and no more criticism than the President himself. He's trying to prevent a global war by making friends out of enemies. I don't know how effective it will be. As the old saying goes, it may be black, but you can't polish a turd. The "Islam and the West have a lot in common line" requires a lot of suspension of disbelief, perhaps too much to actually get off the ground.

18 posted on 02/09/2007 5:14:03 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Eurotwit

brucebawer.com
The personal website of Bruce Bawer, writer and translator.

Recent pieces

On same-sex partnership in Norway THREEPENNY REVIEW, Fall 2001
"'Are you married?' people often ask us here in Norway, where we now live. 'Yes,' I reply. They hear the answer knowing it comes with an asterisk: yes, in Norway - his country, their country - we're married; back in my own homeland, the United States of America, we're not."

On the mainstreaming of gay America NEW YORK TIMES, January 26, 2001
"The most significant social change in the United States during the Clinton presidency was the social mainstreaming of gay Americans and the ebbing of antigay prejudice."


19 posted on 02/09/2007 5:14:19 AM PST by angkor
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To: ArrogantBustard

He's quite right that we need to clean up our act. But we need to do so because it's the right thing to do, not because it will appease the mohammedans (which won't happen no matter what we do).


You're right about the cleaning up. Unfortunately, many people think that the only way to be free involves thumbing their nose at God.


20 posted on 02/09/2007 5:16:15 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Hunter '08)
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