Posted on 02/07/2007 5:16:42 PM PST by Ladycalif
I would prefer to see American citizens guarding the borders, with rifles and mines, and the intent to use them. You disagree with that?
Culberson is out here near me--great Congressman. Heard him on the radio this evening saying they will be having hearings in the morning at 7am eastern time. He gave lots of quotes regarding the false accusations against the border patrol agents and out-right perjury. disgusting! The DHS is more interested in helping the government of Mexico, it's obvious. They're mistaken to believe that they're our "friends", If you ask me.
To borrow (and sanitize, thanks) a metaphor from John Dean, There is something malignant growing in the White House.
There are at least three high level resignations at Homeland Security in the works...
Lying to Congress is serious business...and now Feinstein is bringing the Dems on board.
Yes cause only dictatorships do what you advocate...
Did you sleep right through the 90's? There was alot of illegal immigration disgust. It was in the process of increasing. Under Bush's open border surrender, it's beyond critical mass. It will be his legacy.
I think your post says a bit better what I meant. it HAS been a problem for quite a long time. "critical mass" is a great way to describe the situation now.
In this matter his non-pardon is as good as an indictment as far as I'm concerned. Based on stories I've read, Mexican diplomatic operatives were involved in this early on, and those agents didn't have any hope for a fair process.
LOL! I don't need no stinkin' media to tell me that I can't even go to the local grocery store without seeing signs in spanish. I can't go the ATM without having to push buttons to conduct business in English. I could go on and on...and I am far from alone in this outrage.
I do have a question, why was it not an issue in 92? Why was it not an issue in 96 or in 00??? Please don't give me this critical mass bs....
History of Proposition 187
Prop 187 was passed by the voters on Nov. 8, 1994 to deny public benefits to illegal aliens in California.
The next day several lawsuits were filed in California state court (Mexican-American Legal Defense/Education Fund (MALDEF), League of Latin American Citizens (LULAC), ACLU, and others.
On Nov. 11, 1994 a "temporary restraining order (TRO)" was issued by Federal Judge Matthew Byrne (it was filed in Federal Judge Marianna Pfaelzer's court, but she was out (vacation?), so Byrne did the TRO.
An answer was filed by Attorney General Dan Lungren in state court.
Judge Pfaelzer came back and issued a permanent injunction pending trial. Her rationale was essentially a case in Texas in the 1980's (Plyler v. Doe). Texas tried to deny public education to illegal aliens. The Supreme Court ruled for the illegals, based on two pillars:
1) there were supposedly not enough illegal aliens students in Texas public schools to be a financial burden to Texas, and
2) Congress was contemplating an amnesty for illegal aliens in the U.S. (that occurred in 1986), and illegal alien students who were to be made legal would not be educated. Neither of those conditions existed in 1994.
The cases were consolidated into Judge Pfaelzer's court in 1995.
There were hearings, filings, hearings, filings ...
In 1996 California (Att'y Gen. Dan Lungren) said that Prop 187 was not in conflict with federal law.
In September 1996 federal immigration law was enacted, and in 1997 Lungren asked Judge Pfaelzer for a summary dismissal. (The 1996 federal law included Sec. 133 - that local law enforcement can cooperate with the INS)
Judge Pfaelzer said NO to summary dismissal and ruled for plaintiffs; Lungren said he'll appeal.
Lungren appealed in 9th District Circuit Court in late 1997. FOR SIX MONTHS LUNGREN TOOK NO ACTION - IT SAT THERE. HE SHOULD HAVE MOVED THE CASE ALONG!
Then came the gubernatorial campaign of 1998, and Gray Davis was elected in November. The appeal process was still sitting silently in court because Lungren had not moved it along.
Davis was elected. The plaintiffs requested "mediation" in the 9th District Court, the court agreed to "mediation".
We know what happened then - Davis (who vehemently opposed Prop 187) "represented" FOR Prop 187. Neither the proponent of Prop 187 nor anyone else who co-sponsored Prop 187 was allowed in the bogus "mediation".
Governor Davis refused to allow the appeal to proceed and dropped the appeal, essentially KILLING PROP 187 against the will of the voters. This after having promised to support the appeal during his campaign.
Even the most vocal plaintiffs against Prop 187 said they were afraid that if it went to the U.S. Supreme Court it would be held to be constitutional, reversing Plyler v. Doe.
There are some pretty bad headlines coming out....and not on World Net Daily
"And don't forget that it is the Bush administration that has been lying to congress about the character of the agents, and that it is the Bush administration that has been treating our Border Patrol Agents and the Minutemen as the enemy."
B I N G O
It wasn't exactly a crisis back then either, like it is now. Regardless, two wrongs don't make a right.
EXACTLY!
BS!!!!!! It was a crisis then and it is a crisis now...
Well there's a comment of someone that appears to be incredibly ill informed. What makes you think Bush is a Conservative?
Neocon yes.. A Palecon no...
Thank you very much for those examples. What you have here is simple xenophobia. LOL!
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