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Border Agent's Death Would Spark Impeachment Talks, Republican Says
CNS NEWS ^ | February 07, 2007 | Kevin Mooney and Fred Lucas

Posted on 02/07/2007 5:16:42 PM PST by Ladycalif

(CNSNews.com) - Weeks after accusing President Bush of "shameful" behavior over the imprisonment of two Border Patrol agents who shot an unarmed suspected drug smuggler along the U.S.-Mexico border, a federal lawmaker turned up the heat further Wednesday, suggesting the president should be impeached if either of the two men is murdered in prison.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: adderofbushbashabot; aliens; bds; borderagents; bushbash; danarohrabacher; fence; fringeactivists; hairboy; haircutboy; immigrantlist; immigration; kookmagnetthread; kooks; openbordermorons; openbordertraitors; pitchforkers; protectanddefend; wall
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To: MaestroLC

This may rank as one of the most foolish, inadvisable statements ever made by anyone let alone a politician. He will live to regret it. Retraction and apolgies need to be offered.


561 posted on 02/08/2007 9:01:27 AM PST by Cyman
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To: Wolfstar

"In fact, the current configuration of our land borders didn't come into existence until February 14, 1912, when Arizona became the last of the 48 contiguous states to join the union. Oklahoma had joined in 1907, and New Mexico January 6, 1912."

The borders of those then-US territories were no different than the borders of the US states now. As far as people flowing freely, criminals were pursued. I'm sure you've heard of Pancho Villa and Pershing's "Punitive Expedition."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition


562 posted on 02/08/2007 9:08:29 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: KevinDavis
I love it how so called conservatives speak out against capitalism.

Capitalism dependant on business models based on breaking the law? Damn straight. I suppose you are all for loan sharking and protection rackets as well; good capitalist enterprises that they are.

563 posted on 02/08/2007 9:20:07 AM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: texastoo
Fifth grade history is really not all that difficult and should be known by all adults. You are an adult, aren't you?

Oh, you've hurt my feelings with that witty, albeit nonsensical, remark.

As far as the substance of your reply,

--Your link merely showed that the President can in fact fire Sutton (and see 28 USC 541(c): "Each United States attorney is subject to removal by the President.")

--He can pardon the border agents immediately. A review of the case doesn't require him to wait years for a transcript to be released while innocent men have their lives ruined. He's a "compassionate conservative," remember?

564 posted on 02/08/2007 9:37:12 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
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To: BnBlFlag

I don't think Sutton's half-truths would pass the muster with Poe.
I'd pay to see that hearing. :-)


565 posted on 02/08/2007 9:39:12 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: pissant
Good grief. the president did not prosecute these men. Somebody oughta take a dose of STFU for a bit.

He may as well have. It's his open border policy and nonsensical amnesty program for illegals that is fueling the increasing trafic across the border.

566 posted on 02/08/2007 9:42:36 AM PST by O6ret
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To: teawithmisswilliams

Ya might wanna check what part of that post TT wrote,
and what part was written by the person he was responding to. :-)


567 posted on 02/08/2007 9:59:25 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; texastoo

Oops, thanks! My bad.


568 posted on 02/08/2007 10:01:01 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Nice of you to completely ignore the main point while trying to steer the discussion into a useless sidebar. The stone cold fact is that our borders have been wide open throughout our history. To point out this fact does not equate with wanting out-of-control illegal immigration to contiue. However, we are a nation with no historical precedent for having closed, heavily fenced borders, so agitating for such is like spitting into the teeth of a hurricane. Can be done, but not without a lot of unpleasant blowback.


569 posted on 02/08/2007 10:06:30 AM PST by Wolfstar ("A nation that hates its Horatios is already in grave danger of losing its soul." Dr. Jack Wheeler)
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To: Wolfstar

FYI, I have always been a square peg trying to fit in a round hole.. all because I do ask questions and think for myself.


570 posted on 02/08/2007 10:09:41 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: battletank
I don't need no stinkin' media to tell me that I can't even go to the local grocery store without seeing signs in spanish.

What's the problem with that? Is Spanish so offensive to you that you can't handle a sign in a grocery store without getting outraged? Maybe you should just boycott the store - if there are enough people who believe as you do, the store will go out of business or have to change it's signing policies. Good luck with that. On the other hand adn more importantly, who cares? I don't see anything wrong with any storekeeper putting up signs in any language they damn well please. It is their store, right?

I can't go the ATM without having to push buttons to conduct business in English.

My god, you have to push an extra button when conducting an ATM transaction. The horror!
571 posted on 02/08/2007 10:18:40 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: altura
Bush has an 88% approval rating among Republicans.

Really? Got a cite? It doesn't even appear that Bush has 88% approval here at FR, let alone with all Republicans out there...
572 posted on 02/08/2007 10:20:28 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: RegulatorCountry

Oh, BTW...the borders of the United States most certainly did not extend to their present configuration before the various territories became states. The citizens of the territories could just as easily have voted to become independent nations as to join the union.


573 posted on 02/08/2007 10:26:24 AM PST by Wolfstar ("A nation that hates its Horatios is already in grave danger of losing its soul." Dr. Jack Wheeler)
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To: Wolfstar
Then you want to throw away the separation of powers by having the president of the United States interfere in this one judicial proceeding.

The use of a pardon is in no way a discarding of the separation of powers. It is a Constitutional exercise of a specific power given to the Executive as a check on a corrupt or incompetent judiciary. It is also not, as you indicated earlier, a tacit admission of guilt, but is actually a tacit reproof of a miscarriage of justice. That certain recent Democrat-ick Administrations used the power a a Crackerjacks prize, notwithstanding.

574 posted on 02/08/2007 10:34:59 AM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: Wolfstar

You're the one who raised the issue, so don't go getting all snippy if I point out a few details that don't quite mesh with the direction you prefer to go yourself. The choice for these US territories, in the early nineteen hundreds, was to remain a territory or to become a state. Nationhood was never really on the table. The borders of these respective territories were the same then as they are now, as states. Actual, limited warfare was fought over incursions into US territory, by Mexico. This is hardly a "useless sidebar."


575 posted on 02/08/2007 10:53:03 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: isthisnickcool

The president would seemingly be delighted with totally open borders, unrestricted immigration, and a unified North American Union to replace the current United States.

At least, that's the conclusion I've reached from observing him these past few years.

I shudder when I think of our future here in America.


576 posted on 02/08/2007 10:59:26 AM PST by Deo volente
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To: RegulatorCountry

You can quarrel all you want, but the central point I made remains. The United States has never had closed land borders. Our borders have not even been conrolled in the modern sense until the 2nd half of the 20th century. Stating this in no way argues in favor of the current state of affairs. However, it is important to the current debate to understand that we have no historical tradition of closed land borders, and that makes closing them now all the more difficult.


577 posted on 02/08/2007 11:42:55 AM PST by Wolfstar ("A nation that hates its Horatios is already in grave danger of losing its soul." Dr. Jack Wheeler)
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To: Wolfstar

"You can quarrel all you want"

LOL, you're being argumentative but I'm "quarreling." You Delphi adherents are a hoot.


578 posted on 02/08/2007 11:47:13 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

What the heck is a "Delphi adherent?" Quarrel, argue, debate...all different ways to say the same thing.


579 posted on 02/08/2007 11:54:50 AM PST by Wolfstar ("A nation that hates its Horatios is already in grave danger of losing its soul." Dr. Jack Wheeler)
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To: Stone Mountain

Well DUH! I gave a few examples. If you can't see that our American culture is being shredded, then you must either live in a Stone Mountain...or you are unfortunately blind. It really is not arguable that the culture is now becoming aztlan norte.


580 posted on 02/08/2007 11:55:00 AM PST by battletank
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