[ZULU]

You CAN'T support that wacko Winnie Brady and her bunch or her laws and the "assault rifle" ban and claim you support the Second Amendment.

But Bush II said he would sign the "assault Rifle ban" if it came to his desk too.

The media and the Bolsheviks in the educational institutions are to blame for this because they raise one generation of Americans after another to believe that freedom of speech means having porno movies and the Second Amendment doesn't give people the right to have military arms and become familiar with their use and guns are basically "evil".

Giuliani needs to do some serious rethinking on the gun issue if he hopes to gain the red states. The Dems did and it worked. They picked up seats in gun country because they stopped attacking guns.

[Apogee]

If people acquiesce on the issue of guns and abortion, and decide it is pragmatic to accept a Giuliani nomination rather than the consequences of a Democratic win in '08, then the Republicans will understand that these are not key issues, and will no longer listen to those who hold them.
If the Democrats see that these are not deal breakers after all, then they will have no reason to attempt to pander to people with those concerns either.
Decades of work getting the parties to listen to our voice will be undone.
I would rather "lose" the election than lose the clout of our voices.
Republicans in congress would not buck the new order if they are beholden to it, I would rather have a visible enemy to rally against, than one who can not be named because "he is us".