DITTO!! And thanks for posting this :-)
Yo Ruuuuuuuuuudy
Posted on 02/07/2007 2:40:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson
HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?
GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
HANNITY: So you would support the state's rights to choose on specific gun laws?
GIULIANI: Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated, or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem, like a few cities are now, kind of coming back, thank goodness not New York, but some other cities, maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.
HANNITY: But generally speaking, do you think it's acceptable if citizens have the right to carry a handgun?
GIULIANI: It's not only -- I mean, it's part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can't just remove that right. You've got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment.
HANNITY: How do you feel about the Brady bill and assault ban?
GIULIANI: I was in favor of that as part of the crime bill. I was in favor of it because I thought that it was necessary both to get the crime bill passed and also necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at, 1,800, 1,900, to 2,000 murders, that I could use that in a tactical way to reduce crime. And I did.
Hannity is a "New York Republican", the standard principles do not apply to New Yorkers.
Unlikely. DId he get the city to return the unconstitutionally seized guns or compensate the owners for the antics of the Dinkins administration?
Rudy's plan to "regulate" gun ownership drives a nail into the heart of every conservative.
Then again, Rudy has a history of thumbing his nose at laws to suit his particular agenda at the time.
Ever-ambitious Giuliani raised eyebrows in the aftermath of Sept. 11 when he sought to suspend the city’s elections laws in order to extend his term of office. NY'ers wouldn't buy that power-grab by Rudy.
It's hard to imagine conservatives will buy Rudy's attempts to thwart the sacrosanct Second Amendment to serve his political ambitions.
As VRWC posted: What part of the people's right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED does he NOT understand?
LOL!! To find the closest state with carry laws that I like, all I need to do is head down I-95, cross the Potomac, and set up residence in Virginia.
You know, it's not often I run across a post by you, Jim, but every time I do, you're spot on. Well said! Not on my watch, either! FMCDH!
Ipod's being regulated? Trans-fats banned? Do these sound like responsible pieces of legislation to you? Yes I know Rudy didn't implement these laws, but it's part of the political spectrum where he considers himself a centrist.
New York city's political institutions are an insane asylum, and this is what Rudy has come from.
When you look at his policy positions the only manifest difference between him and Hillary is that she is sitting in the corner in her straight jacket and can't stop chanting "Tax the Rich...tax the rich... tax the rich."
In NYC, if you hold the same sort of values that are held in roughly 51% of the rest of the country, you are considered certifiable. Defend the rights of the unborn? You are a religious nut. Defend the right of law abiding citizens to defend themselves? You're a gun nut. Defend our national borders... the definition of our societal institutions... the right of people to benefit from their own labor? Not only are you a nut but a racist, fascist nut. This is what defines the scope of the political spectrum for Rudy Giuliani, and it sounds like an insane asylum to me.
This is what Rudy has come from.
Of course not. The anti-gunners are evil, not stupid. Their goal is the complete disarmament of every American other than the police and military. No rifles, shotguns, handguns, airguns - nothing outside the hands of the agents of the state.
This is a matter of religion to them, because they worship the state. An armed citizen is a threat to the power of the state, because conceivably, a citizen pushed too far could pick up a gun and kill his oppressors.* Those who worship the state want to eliminate all possible threats to government having complete and total power over every citizen.
*Henry Waxman's (D, CA) comment about wanting to ban .50 cal rifles because they could puncture armoured limousines is pretty revealing .
I think your friend is off by a great or two. If you google robert morris genealogy you can see that all of his great grandchildren are either listed as dead or were born so long ago that they are likely dead.
LOL
In front of me is my morning donut (maple bar), an empty bag of cheetos, ciggerettes and a large cup of coffee and its only 530am-im off to a great start;)
Ahh yes tootsie rolls-I stash those especially for when im having a bowl of popcorn.
its not a real exersize plan (but it sounds good huh)? its the try and cook dinner, run up and down the stairs posting plan!
I have a brand new treadmill, but im afraid if i get on it ill have a heart attack LOL It just sits there and mocks me;)
Diehard,your posts are thoughtful and well-expressed.
Many thanks for them.
May God's blessing be always with New Zealand and its peoples.
DITTO!! And thanks for posting this :-)
Yo Ruuuuuuuuuudy
exactly - .....and two of them were Republicans
perhaps the critics would like McCain or some other RINO -
Rudy accomplished two things - he cleaned up the city and behaved as someone who was serving his Country....not for the self serving aspects, but for the love of it
Fascists like 'regulations'.
Two things.
Law enforcement by definition does not protect rights, only enforces the will of the state, which nearly always involves some infringement of rights.
This WAS true until the "Brady background check " law went into effect. Now you cannot buy a firearm without the permission of the state. So what was once a right has now been turned into a privilege. You don't need permission from the state to exercise a right.
I apoligize this isnt the right post to respond too. Its too early in the morning, so i picked the closest one i could find.
Id ping the rest of the folks involved though i cant remember who they all were. I thought this might help, in the future:)
I was really curious about all the hub bub surounding this posting of a pink triangle (i didnt see it).
I was so intrigued by it that i emailed my sister (over 50% of her circle of friends are gay males). yes, yes, shes a flaming lib!
Anyways, so she told me that we all look foolish (actually i think she used the word ignorant) here by being offended by the symbol.
she said that yes, the pink trianle was a nazi symbol at ONE TIME.
but they have since reclaimed as thier own as well as the black triangle for lesbians. Its considered a symbol of pride, as much so as the rainbow flag.
Im not sure how it was meant, or why some folks would be enraged by it?? I musta missed something AGAIN. Im always a day late and a dollar short;)
Anyway, i thought it might help for anyone reading to know that its not a bad symbol at all, atleast not to the gay and lesbian community.
Infact they consider it a very bold sign of thier refusal to conform.
I love the fact that Freepers in general are smarter than your average political junky.
But to stick your finger in the air and automatically support a liberal RINO for President is absolutely idiotic.
You know those Rudybeggars will claim folks only "volunteered" to surrender their weapons for the good of the children.
The most dreaded words in the English language: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."
The fact of the matter is that the Second Amendment wa written in large part to ensure "law enforcement bodies" couldn't overreach. So I'm having a hard time seeing why their opinion has any bearing on the subject.
What's more, "society" also judges abortion to be reasonable. Does that mean we shouldn't look for a pro-life candidate?
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