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Rudy on gun control: "You've got to REGULATE consistent with the Second Amendment"
FOX News ^ | Feb 6, 2007 | Hanity and Colmes

Posted on 02/07/2007 2:40:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Are you aware that repeatedly posting those inane pictures really slow up reloading the thread for dial up members?
1,101 posted on 02/08/2007 8:28:23 AM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia <)
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To: adopt4Him

"Do you think it applies to children too? the right to own a gun? it doesn't give an age in the big C. when you get technical".

I keep seeing this question pop up all over this thread.

Well the restriction is kinda silly-my son can hunt and carry a gun, but he cant "own" one.

I think the younger a child (within reason) learns how to properly handle a weapon, the better.

An example.

My son knows that a weapon is not a toy and how it should be handled at all times.

He went to see a friend and they went over to another kids house. that kid (not being properly trained) pull out his 22 and pointed it at my son and his friend. my son knew enough to LEAVE and not go back.

But kids that dont know, that arent taught, would more than likely not realize the danger OR would think it was cool to "play" with a weapon.

The kids exuse? "well its not loaded". famous last words.


1,102 posted on 02/08/2007 8:29:06 AM PST by OMalley (Hi Mom:) Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: OMalley
It used to be a joke out here that you had more gun racks than liberals,

I'd say that for sure.

Once I had Larry Pratt from gun owners of America out to speak at our Lincoln Day. It's when all those militias were being formed all over the country.

He said "Idaho doesn't have to form a militia, it is one.
1,103 posted on 02/08/2007 8:30:54 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

Boats I could handle!

Idaho is beautiful country.

My husband and i drive thru thier every summer on our way to washington. Actually thought of retiring out that way, but land is too expense:(

Yeah, hardly any TV for me iether unless its criminal minds or CSI lol


1,104 posted on 02/08/2007 8:32:19 AM PST by OMalley (Hi Mom:) Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Delphinium

LOL:)


1,105 posted on 02/08/2007 8:33:52 AM PST by OMalley (Hi Mom:) Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: OMalley

"You would think the liberals wouldnt want that type of job, but perhaps thier values have price tag?"


ROFL you should see how many high&mighty liberals saturate the "Defense Industry".


1,106 posted on 02/08/2007 8:36:37 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: tpaine

Try walking into a school zone carrying a rifle and telling everybody that.

Perhaps you advocate providing inmates in prisons and asylums firearms so that they can manifest their (unlimited) Second Amendment rights?


1,107 posted on 02/08/2007 8:36:38 AM PST by mtntop3 (u)
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To: Jim Robinson
Don't vote for the Republican candidate in the primary just because he is electable. Electable got us Gerald Ford! Electable got us Bob Dole! Vote for the right-wing kook. That's RONALD REAGAN!!

Hear hear!

But what about after August '08?

In my opinion, the point in question is: what is the appropriate action to take IF the Republican who emerges as the candidate is not a strong conservative?

In my opinion, if we get a weak conservative (as, in my opinion, a Ford, a Dole, a GHW Bush) then we have a choice: give our full support, or allow the Democrat to win through inaction.

I think history's told us that crying 'meh' when our guy is a weak candidate provides us with object lessons on exactly how bad (Carter, Clinton) it can get when we let the Democrat win. We're only now dealing with the full impact of the disasters Carter unleashed.

The 'rats don't have this problem. Somehow the pink triangle brigade, the union guys, the trial lawyers and the KOS wackos ignore their disputes in November and pull the D lever. We had some good fortune with the Green types in '00 but that was not nearly as big a dent as Perot made in our party.

That having been said, I'm 100% with you with regard to the primaries. Now is not the time to compromise or settle for anything less than what we want. Now is the time to fight for the best conservative we can.

Thanks for everything and especially for standing up now.

1,108 posted on 02/08/2007 8:37:09 AM PST by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Well thats a scary thought!


1,109 posted on 02/08/2007 8:38:55 AM PST by OMalley (Hi Mom:) Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: OMalley

But it's true.


1,110 posted on 02/08/2007 8:41:23 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: OMalley
Actually thought of retiring out that way, but land is too expense:(

We have property for sale, but only to conservatives:-)
1,111 posted on 02/08/2007 8:41:35 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: mtntop3
Perhaps you advocate providing inmates in prisons and asylums firearms so that they can manifest their (unlimited) Second Amendment rights?

Imprisoned convicts lawfully have most of their other rights infringed due to being convicted, so that is a completely absurd argument. But that's about all you have left, eh?

1,112 posted on 02/08/2007 8:41:58 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

well that explains alot.


1,113 posted on 02/08/2007 8:43:41 AM PST by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08...HI MOM:))
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To: adopt4Him
If someone is demonstrably incapable of responsible exercise of a right, the right can be suspended. This is a basic and accepted principle of law, applying to all rights.

My children, when old enough to responsibly understand and use firearms, will be given suitable rifles. My niece just got her first .22 - at age 10. Some posters in this thread got theirs at age 8.

Are there rules? Yes.

All guns are always loaded.
Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
Know your target, and what is beyond.
These rules cover all safety issues. If you obey them, fine - do what you want. Scale them accordingly depending on what arms are being discussed (yes, even WMDs fit in once you get past the hysteria). Violate them, and others have the right to disarm & detain you until you deal with the consequences and they can trust you will follow those rules.

Once someone has the mental & moral capacity to exercise 2nd Amendment rights, they may do so - or, put more accurately, once someone has the mental & moral capacity to safely exercise 2nd Amendment rights (or ANY rights), nobody else has any right to stop them.

1,114 posted on 02/08/2007 8:43:58 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Delphinium

Yeah? hmmmmm....... you might have to freepmail me some info.

Though hubbie thinks 2500 an acre is high anywhere (but hes getting more reasonable LOL)


1,115 posted on 02/08/2007 8:45:14 AM PST by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08...HI MOM:))
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen and big Bump!


1,116 posted on 02/08/2007 8:46:19 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: mtntop3
Try walking into a school zone carrying a rifle and telling everybody that.

Used to be that kids would take rifles to school, to either participate in the school shooting team or hunt on the way home. No problems.

1,117 posted on 02/08/2007 8:48:02 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It is interesting.

It is huge and probably hard to follow if you weren't there at the beginning of it. :-)

1,118 posted on 02/08/2007 8:49:26 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: ctdonath2
Howitzers? In my town, there is a house with a howitzer parked in the driveway , pointing at the local high school.
I'm surprised there hasn't been a big brouhaha by the local mommies. It's not too obvious unless your looking right at it.
1,119 posted on 02/08/2007 8:49:40 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: Jet Jaguar

What Rudy is saying (badly) in my interpretation, and I have gone on you tube and watched this several times, is that “The right to restrict arms is not granted to the federal government.” That is a correct statement. However, the thinks that States which according to the constitution are not bound be the restrictions on the federal government may have that right and it will be to use his words (If I remember them correctly) “interesting to see how this works out”.

He’s willing to let the Supreme court decide. Which IMHO is how it will be as well.

Links
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAXw3ZZuYU
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bM-r3dDMd8


1,120 posted on 02/08/2007 8:53:20 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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