1 posted on
02/07/2007 6:36:08 AM PST by
gobucks
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To: gobucks
Are some people born evil?
I'm leaning towards yes.
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48 posted on
02/07/2007 7:35:37 AM PST by
reagan_fanatic
(Every time a jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings.)
To: gobucks
All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
49 posted on
02/07/2007 7:36:18 AM PST by
AD from SpringBay
(We have the government we allow and deserve.)
To: gobucks
50 posted on
02/07/2007 7:37:35 AM PST by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: gobucks
Evil is a necessity which some are born into, some are pushed into and some succumb to.I tend to believe that, if there is a God, I could see circumstances in which some evil people - like Hitler - are chosen to do a needed bidding.
It sounds horrible but, in a grand sense, it's logical.
To: gobucks
Human beings are born with a sink of depravity within them that will result in ANY of us being a monster like Hitler or Pol Pot or Mengistu, given the right circumstances. What should shock us is not that there ARE gruesome creatures like Nero, Felix Dzerzhinsky, or Idi Amin, but that there are not MORE of them.
The sad thing is that today no one has read "Human nature in its fourfold state" (Boston) or Calvin's "Institutes of the Christian Religion" or Jonathan Edwards, or Luther's "Bondage of the Will" or ANY of the classical works that deal with the effects of fallenness and sin on the human soul. As a result, we have a secular society which is genuinely perplexed over what is clearly evil, yet it has no grounds for classifying it as such. Moreover, we have a liberal, humanistic church which echoes the man-centered voices of our age in affirming that people are "basically good" and that all we need is a bit of a nudge to sanctify ourselves. Therefore, we don't need grace. Therefore, we don't teach it, but focus on silly silly exhortations to be "better" Christians (more bible reading, more prayer, give more, more evangelical duties).
As a result, we are just as aghast as the pagans when true evil shows its face...., and no wonder, for we are pagan in our theology of the human condition
"For lack of knowledge My people are destroyed" says the old book. Too true.
To: gobucks
But [Daumer] had a brother, David, who never did anyone any harm and who now lives quietly under another name. David had the same parents, the same start in life and carried the same cartload of genes and DNA as his brother. Nope. Brothers don't have the "same cartload of genes." On average, siblings share half their genes. But it can be less than that, or more. Children of the same mother also don't develop in the identical prenatal environment.
My opinion: this guy doesn't know what he is talking about. Yes, there are some people who are, as the saying goes, "born to hang."
56 posted on
02/07/2007 8:43:18 AM PST by
freespirited
(What about Dingell-Norwood?)
To: gobucks
This is a serious subject. And I think it is entirely open to question. The one thing I am reasonably certain of is that if a person has no conscience, which such people as serial murderers don't have, they can murder without feelings of guilt. I would posit the view tha why some people don't have consciences ought to be the study of inquiry.
58 posted on
02/07/2007 9:40:31 AM PST by
RichardW
To: gobucks
'When did evil enter Hitler's soul? When he was rejected at the art academy.
60 posted on
02/07/2007 9:44:37 AM PST by
RightWhale
(300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
To: gobucks
No, people aren't "born evil" BUT they do inherit tendencies from their parents. A watchful parent strives to bring out the BEST in the child and lead them in the right direction.
As the saying goes, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree but that doesn't mean the apple HAS to be rotten. In other words, you can MOLD a child's will one way or the other.
65 posted on
02/07/2007 11:39:14 AM PST by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
To: gobucks
"Are some people born evil?"
Normal Mailer was, I believe.
70 posted on
02/07/2007 1:40:04 PM PST by
gcruse
(http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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74 posted on
02/07/2007 3:22:52 PM PST by
Revolting cat!
(We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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