HPV Vaccine Mandates Risky and Expensive (Vaccine Safety Group Finds Serious Reactions, High Costs)

PR Newswire ^ | Feb 1, 2007 | Unknown

[Marie]

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since the CDC's July 2006 universal use recommendation for all young girls, NVIC found reports of loss of consciousness, seizures, joint pain and Guillain-Barre Syndrome. In a separate evaluation of costs for young girls being vaccinated in private pediatrician offices, NVIC discovered that parents living in the Washington, D.C. area will be paying between $500 and $900 to have their daughters receive three doses of GARDASIL.

"GARDASIL safety appears to have been studied in fewer than 2,000 girls aged 9 to 15 years pre-licensure clinical trials and it is unclear how long they were followed up. VAERS is now receiving reports of loss of consciousness, seizures, arthritis and other neurological problems in young girls who have received the shot," said NVIC President Barbara Loe Fisher. "At the same time, parents who take their daughters to private pediatricians are going to be shocked to find that they will be paying two to three times the widely publicized $360 cost for the three-dose series. The cost is going to break the pocketbooks of parents and break the banks of both insurance companies and taxpayers, when the reality is that almost all cases of HPV- associated cervical cancer can be prevented with annual pap screening of girls who are sexually active."

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[CheyennePress]

Depends on how you define "virgin." HPV can be spread through direct physical contact that excludes intercourse.

And it can be spread without a condom, as well.

[CheyennePress]

Correction: it can be spread even with a condom.

[MamaTexan]

But Rick Perry... doesn't he have good hair?

We're beginning to wonder if it really isn't just some kind of exotic brain mold.

[NonValueAdded]

However, we've vaccinated millions of people over almost three generations now and there simply isn't any serious scientific evidence that vaccination is harmful to one's health.

Not with Gardasil, you haven't. The claim of vaccine-related Guillain-Barre Syndrome certainly has my attention. Good grief, that's why aspirin is no longer used for children but OK for adults. There is something systemically different about a prepubescent child than a young adult. Mass innoculations of millions of pre-teens because a handful seem to be ok after a few years is lunacy! I doubt any of the study girls have entered child-bearing years, let alone had a child, or that child has grown enough for many potential effects to be known. What happens if this turns out to be this generation's DES? You experiment with your kid, not mine.

[Froufrou]

"Valid vaccine???" VAERS is now receiving reports of loss of consciousness, seizures, arthritis and other neurological problems in young girls who have received the shot," said NVIC President Barbara Loe Fisher. "At the same time, parents who take their daughters to private pediatricians are going to be shocked to find that they will be paying two to three times the widely publicized $360 cost for the three-dose series.<< Did your dog eat your homework? Get real, ppl, this is a freakin' loose cannon!

[originalbuckeye]

The mortality started going down in the 60's after Dr Papanicolaou invented the 'Pap smear' in 1957. Trust me, the cervical cancers then were not clearly associated with the HPV virus. They look completely different today in detection.

The virus started proliferating because of looser sexual mores practiced by women, led by the feminist movement. Before now, vaccines were required for viruses that are easily communicated due to the proximity of the infected person. This is only communicated through direct contact. And you are right with one thing. It is connected to oropharyngeal cancer ,too. Of course, that's due to the exponential rise of oral sex. Oral sex isn't really sex, right? It is true that sometimes you can't see the lesions on the penis. It can be there and there is no visual wart. Don't pretend that I don't know what I'm talking about. I am making accurate statements.

Maybe next time we can discuss the rise in anal cancer in the gay community. Yep, that pesky HPV virus again. It's a very nasty, sometimes hidden, virus. But it is always preventable. There are male virgins, too.

[Ford4000]

This type of reasoning is akin to "past history is a guarantee of future results." New vaccines should be subject to the same level of medical skepticism as any other new drug regardless of past history.

[MEGoody]

Parents and their children's doctors should be the ones to make the decision for our girls.

Exactly. This is a concept many can't seem to grasp.

[MEGoody]

That a girl who is raped by an HPV positive individual, or a girl who marries an asymptomatic guy who contracted the virus earlier in life and either didn't know or lied about his status is as at risk as the "slut"?

It's interesting that those who support abortion on demand also play the 'rape' card to support their views.

[MEGoody]

Why don't they make it mandatory not to pass the virus on, and if you do, you go to jail..and pay the persons medical bills?

But that would require taking responsibility for one's own actions, and we can't have that.

[Overtaxed]

At the least it should be tested further,

Isn't that what this mandatory vaccination's all about?

[perseid 67]

Yes, Merck had only one clinical trial involving 2,200 women. Even if this was the best run trial ever(unlikely),that would not be enough people to extrapolate to the whole population of Texas.I do not think they used girls as young as 11 in that study.They really are running an experiment.

Merck is in financial trouble because of VIOX. They can not be trusted.

[originalbuckeye]

Mea culpa. Dr. Papanicolaou actually invented the 'Pap smear' in the 40's. My memory for dates isn't what it used to be but my memory for the evolution of the appearance of cervical cancer is still quite sharp. Another entity you might be interested in- I remember in the 80's hearing a lecture about the transmission of HPV to some newborns via passage through the birth canal. These children developed warts is their throats, IIRC. I haven't followed this story so I can't discuss the validity of it.

The vast majority of cervical cancers are now caused by HPV. The pap smear is the first line of detection. HPV moves very swiftly these days (unlike in the olden days). Sexually active women, especially those who have been or will be involved with many partners, should get a smear every 6 months. Early detection is key and, yes, the pap smear doesn't find all HPVs.

I remember in high school a friend of mine used to say 'the best birth control is one thin dime placed firmly between the knees'. It's also the best defense against STDs.

[ConservaTexan]

Isn't that what this mandatory vaccination's all about?

Exactly! No more Lone Star State, now Texas should be known as The Guinea Pig State.

[MadelineZapeezda]

80% of American women have been infected with HPV at least once by their fiftieth birthday. 80% of American women are not sluts.

Where is your source on this? I don't believe it.

[Alter Kaker]

Where is your source on this? I don't believe it.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention HPV fact sheet

80% of American women contract HPV at least once by their 50th birthday. This isn't something that only "bad" women get -- this is endemic.

[perseid 67]

Eleven year olds are not contracting HPV.

In fact, this vaccine even when it does work will only at best protect women from four of the twelve strains of HPV floating around.

[MadelineZapeezda]

I still don't believe it.
Sorry, just because they state it.

[Alter Kaker]

I still don't believe it. Sorry, just because they state it.

Who needs facts when you can hold such sincere opinions?

[Alter Kaker]

Eleven year olds are not contracting HPV.

That's precisely the point. If you give it to people at the age at which they're contracting HPV, the vaccine won't be effective.

In fact, this vaccine even when it does work will only at best protect women from four of the twelve strains of HPV floating around.

Actually, there are more than a hundred strains of HPV. The vaccine protects against two strains that cause the vast majority of genital warts, and against two strains that are responsible for more than 70% of cervical cancers. It's not a perfect solution, but it will make a difference.