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>Still, Newt did better on the deficit than any other house
>speaker. The number are complicated but deficit wise the
>Newt years were good years.

If better means the annual deficit decreased year by year, that still means the national debt itself continued to only increase, which is NOT bold leadership that takes a stand for what's right or for principle.

That's country club "get along" "leadership" that would rather stay in power than ruffle any feathers. The result of which is what I've said from the start about Newt's tenure as a "leader":

1) the national debt only increased
2) the borders stayed open

Question: Will #1 and #2 unchecked, destroy this nation yes or no?

If yes, *why* give Newt another shot? He had *4* *years* in a prominent position of leadership and failed to see and call attention EFFECTIVELY to these grave and gathering threats to our national sovereignty.

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"If yes, *why* give Newt another shot? He had *4* *years* in a prominent position of leadership and failed to see and call attention EFFECTIVELY "

That's exactly right, if we choose to ignore the fact that it was his Leadership that swept the Republicans into the Majority after 40 years (elected Speaker 1995-1999) of Democrat rule, and the architect of the Contract With America was forwarded by him, AND he led the House through the Clinton Presidency, IN SPITE of the Liberal MSM bombarding the country with Clinton-Speak and Leftist propoganda.

Now, if you think he should have ignored all that and focused on the Illegal aliens and the Debt, and not accomplished what his Leadership did, THEN you have a case.

Notwithstanding all those accomplishments, I stand by my contention that he is the CLOSEST thing to a Conservative in the list of potential 2008 candidates.

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"1) the national debt only increased"

Uh, that happened under Reagan and he was the best President of my lifetime.

"2) the borders stayed open"

That happened under Reagan too, yet he was the best.

Under Newt, they cut taxes and balanced the budget and enacted welfare reform - despite Clinton in the white house. That is amazing, and much better than the wimp leadership in the Congress in recent years that just got tossed out.

What about:
- Welfare reform
- Lower taxes and less spending
- Standing up to terrorists
- Solutions on Social Security and Medicare
- Pro-life and pro-Constitution on Judges
- supports traditional marriage

"Question: Will #1 and #2 unchecked, destroy this nation yes or no? "

Newt is not for amnesty, and is for bringing in English-only for citizenship. Read his "winning the future".