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Rudy will not win the Republican nomination because enough of the people who vote in Republican caucuses and primaries still respect life and marriage
1 posted on 02/06/2007 10:43:33 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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“Murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes,” Rudy Giuliani once said. “But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other.”

That is a brilliant quote.

2 posted on 02/06/2007 10:45:33 AM PST by jdm
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Well, count my vote for Rudy. And I do vote in primaries.


3 posted on 02/06/2007 10:45:57 AM PST by GSlob
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don't tell that to the rudy fans on the board. That must mean that conservative primary voters actually want hillary to be elected president if they don't vote for rudy.


4 posted on 02/06/2007 10:46:04 AM PST by flashbunny (<---------- Hate RINOs? Click my name for 2008 GOP RINO collector cards.)
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Immigration and gay marriage would have been stopped him from winning anyway.


5 posted on 02/06/2007 10:47:11 AM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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Someone needs to report this thread to a mod....uh...never mind.


6 posted on 02/06/2007 10:48:35 AM PST by zarf
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Rudy has a strong 84% conservative approval rating. (Battle ground poll as of Jan.11, '07)


7 posted on 02/06/2007 10:49:09 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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Rudy would never get involved in any discussion of gays or abortion or anything else involving morality, since he knows he'd be (justly) accused of hypocrisy.


8 posted on 02/06/2007 10:49:09 AM PST by Redbob
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Indeed, in one recent poll, majorities of Republicans who were informed of Giuliani’s views on social issues said that they were either minor issues or no issues at all; only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views.

In the online GOP Bloggers poll, Giuliani is consistently one of the few candidates to end up with a net positive acceptability rating. These internet denizens are well-informed, and overwhelmingly self-describe as conservative (78% self-describe as 7 or higher on a 10-scale of conservatism). If these people can support Rudy, anyone can.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/


9 posted on 02/06/2007 10:49:37 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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Someone FINALLY gets it about Rudy. I would hope the rest of the 'Rudy can beat Hillary" crowd get the point.

It's about CORE values, and Rudy is nowhere near the real Republican core values.

11 posted on 02/06/2007 10:49:56 AM PST by Pistolshot (Condi 2008.<------added January 2004. Remember you heard it here first)
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Rudy is for the planned murder of the most helpless, for gun grabbing from honest citizens and for illegal aliens rights and welfare!

The RNC went from Conservative to moderate to loss of POTUS to more moderate.
Now some on FR and the RNC seem to want to go left wing with Rudy, Romney or McCain!
13 posted on 02/06/2007 10:50:09 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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Perhaps not enough. Rudy may have the momentum to bring ALL Republicans out to the primaries.


21 posted on 02/06/2007 10:52:33 AM PST by EnquiringMind
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This thread will prove how some "conservatives" want Republicans to lose every election possible.


25 posted on 02/06/2007 10:56:08 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Point your toilets towards Mecca!)
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Giuliani (D-NY) is pond scum if he won't stand up for the lives of unborn children.

if all the GOP can come up with in 2008 are left-wing scum like Giuliani and McCain and if the GOP refuses to kick those 2 losers out of the party, I hope Hillary wins in 2008, maybe then the GOP will learn another lesson, they obviously learned nothing in 2006 by Pelosi taking control of the House and Republicans getting beat all across the country


28 posted on 02/06/2007 10:57:04 AM PST by TracyTucson (Teachers : Overpaid and Underworked........ Eliminate > ADA, EOE, NLRB, SS, DOE)
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To: Liz; Reagan Man; TommyDale; Spiff; narses

fyi


29 posted on 02/06/2007 10:58:08 AM PST by jla
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Pro life conservatives are the strongest grassroots primary voters.


33 posted on 02/06/2007 10:58:50 AM PST by upsdriver
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"Now, what about a climate — not to mention a Republican presidential candidate — that not only tolerates, but allows unelected judges to legalize the practice of delivering a child until only its head remains within its mothers womb so the child can be killed by sucking out its brains?

What about a climate where same-sex couples are given the same legal status as married couples, whether the resulting arrangements are candidly called “same-sex marriages,” or are semantically papered-over with terms such as “civil unions” or “domestic partnerships”? "

I noticed how Reagan managed to change this? Wasn't he a Conservative? How did this work out for him?


38 posted on 02/06/2007 11:00:26 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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If confusion about Giuliani is this confused on Free Republic..
Then it must be much much worse in the general population..

The MsM loves Rudy Giuliani vs Hillary, why IS THAT?...
And NO RED FLAGS ARE GOING UP...

Are republicans autistic?..

41 posted on 02/06/2007 11:01:47 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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Well .. Rudy's opinion is about where Cheney is .. so saying Rudy's against marriage is grossly wrong. He still believes "marriage" is between a man and a woman .. but he's not opposed to civil unions (which he believes is the job of each state to decide).

My how the anti-Rudy people are so eager to distort everything Rudy says .. it even sounds a little like what the Hillary campaign will be saying about him ..??


51 posted on 02/06/2007 11:05:06 AM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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Right on! Thank you for posting this. This shows that at least some Republicans aren't drinking the KoolAid.


53 posted on 02/06/2007 11:05:51 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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The current 'battle' the media is touting is Rudy vs AlGore in '08. I'd love to see that; it may be the first time a Republican carries all 50 states.

Given the choice between the frontrunners, I like Rudy the most. While there may be others that I'd like to see run (Hunter? Tancredo?) I don't think that they're electable.

Unless...either Hillary! or AlGore steal the (D) nomination. Then, it doesn't really matter who the Republicans run, because their core will come sprinting home. Heck, I'd even vote for John McCain if he was running against Gore or Clinton.

56 posted on 02/06/2007 11:06:43 AM PST by wbill
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