Posted on 02/06/2007 7:04:27 AM PST by lifelong_republican
"...the death knell for the paperless electronic touch-screen machines..."
(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.com ...
See also:
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070204/NEWS01/702040380/1006
and http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070206/OPINION/702060312/1046
A paper trail did not do too much good in 2000. Just further undermined the credibility of the election.
This is a red herring. Paper ballots were rife with outright fraud in democrat districts. There has not been a single shred of credible evidence, not a single shred, that electronic voting is rigged or unreliable.
You're right that what went on in 2000 wasn't, and isn't, acceptable.
The electronics are so unreliable and unsecurable that they would only make it easier for corrupt Democrats to commit massive vote fraud with little risk of detection.
Real Americans deserve no less than their own real ballots.
What do the feds know about recent electronic voting that they are not admitting to us? (Now that we are saddled with the "people's choice" of Nancy Pelosi as 3rd in line for the Presidency)
You are right that paper ballots have been abused, but that is not an excuse to promote more severe abuses with the electronics.
The electronics have in fact been proven to have low reliability and inadequate security.
NIST, the GAO, and scientists doing studies reported in the "National Geographic" have confirmed that.
You raise an excellent question.
We can find out about the severe problems with electronic voting on our own. Computer scientists and computer security experts have been pointing out the flaws with it for awhile now. It is up to us as patriotic Americans to demand real ballots and security for them throughout the election process.
They miss 'chad'. They hated him when he was dimpled, wondered when he was hanging, marveled when he became pregnant. Back to the good old days.
This is ALL a democrat ploy into going back to paper ballots where they can commit massive fraud. They cannot do that with electronic voting. I am not sure why people cannot see this as they cry "Diebold". There are tons of examples of this: Florida in 2000, Missouri in 2000, in Houston, in Philadelphia, and just recently the convictions of democrats in Ohio's Cayuaga county.
That's clever.
There's no need to go back to 'chads', though. The problems of the old days can be solved today with video and other forms of security.
The insistence on real physical ballots prepared and confirmed directly by the voters themselves, combined with diligence in the supervision of the handling of those physical ballots, will be necessary for Americans to enjoy elections in which they can be confident.
I would not trust computers too much. Too much potential for voter fraud. Paper backup is always needed.
We have touchscreen machines in my county. To the left of the screen is a papertape that scrolls by under plastic. It is much like a cash register tape. It prints each vote and lets you review it. Before allowing you to complete, the machine summarizes your vote and you must confirm it. Not entirely idiotproof, but the idiots must be more creative. The computers make tabulation quicker and the papertape allows poll workers to confirm the totals. There is little room for ambiguity.
I've seen lots of examples of voter fraud in this state. This new system eliminates many of them.
Da mayor says you ain't a real patriotic American less yer
for paper ballots after all look what they done fer him.
The problem with the paper tape is that it can reflect what the voter expects to see but not result in accurate tabulation of those votes as the voters saw them.
This "lifelong_republican" is a democrat plant. And good luck in 2000 Florida when massive vote fraud is committed again by paper ballot.
Actually, the few precincts that used optical scan systems were recounted the quickest and proved to have least disparity with election day numbers.
Excellent! The mark-sense, color-in-the-circle system has been working well in Brevard County, Florida. During the 2000 debacle, our county's tally remained unchanged. A huge percentage of the voters have had experience with that type of ballot and it is pretty hard to mess it up.
I am extremely pleased that the nonsense about having touch-screen consoles give out an ATM-style receipt was abandoned. The opportunities for vote-selling, union coercion, a flood of phony receipts "discovered" to overturn an otherwise legitimate win [ask yourself, would Jennings resort to this if possible?] were legion.
The use of such tapes in manual recounts is quite problematic. Many of the printers are failure-prone, and the materials tend to be such as to result in illegibility over time, too. The way they're printed can add significant difficulty to audit procedures.
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