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Minimum wage increase impacts local restaurants
summit daily news ^ | February 4, 2007 | KIMBERLY NICOLETTI

Posted on 02/05/2007 8:18:10 AM PST by george76

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To: TASMANIANRED

The place where I like to go have a drink has gone from $4.50 for a high ball to almost $7 in a little over a year....insane. I go out much less frequently and notice there are lots less people there now.


81 posted on 02/05/2007 10:58:04 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: A CA Guy
My 18-year-old daughter works as a waitress here in Arizona, and on January 1st her establishment promptly increased all their prices a minimum of 50 cents. They are also placing a freeze on hiring, so they all have to work a little harder now.

The owner told them exactly why he was doing it - because of the increase in the minimum wage that Arizonans had voted for - so these kids are learning firsthand about the impact of socialism.

82 posted on 02/05/2007 11:07:25 PM PST by IrishRainy ("There is not a single <u>solitary</u> nuclear missile pointed at an American child tonight. ")
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To: A CA Guy
When you see a slow down in the two businesses above, months later the rest of the economy follows from my life experiences

Add custom framing shops to your list of indicator businesses.

OF course FedEx isn't really slowing down.

83 posted on 02/05/2007 11:14:24 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: RedStateRocker
Well, I would be willing to pay a lot more to go out if I knew that the waitstaff were making a decent wage. Why not just pay 'em a good wage and stop the stupid and demeaning practice of 'tipping'.

You, essentially, can determine what the waitstaff makes with your tip. I doubt the person receiving a large tip feels demeaned.

Any place not paying their employees enough to buy a house and send their kids to college is not somewhere I wish to patronize, anyway.

Really? You think McDonald's ought to enable all their employees to buy a house? LOL!! You may be willing to pay $50 for a hamburger, but the rest of us are not. Now the poor burger flippers have NO job at all.

84 posted on 02/05/2007 11:36:48 PM PST by Dianna
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To: curiosity
No, but neither was he an economist.

He had a very good education, was very smart and had top minds around him.

Do you think that if the elites paid more heed to his warnings and the Bolshevik Revolution (with resulting rise of Fascism and WWII) did not take place, it would be so bad thing?

85 posted on 02/06/2007 6:43:03 AM PST by A. Pole (XIV century English rhyme: "When Adam delved and Eve span, who was the gentleman?")
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To: kabar

I was at a casino in Minnesota waiting for my car to come back from the valet parking. I was talking to one of the attendants. I'd had a good night, and was going to give the guy a good tip ($10 on a $3 valet parking). I was feeling generous. I asked the other guy (who was waiting for the next customer, so I wasn't spending his time that he could have been earning something) what the best tip he'd ever received was. He said that one day, he had a guy who had won over $75,000 and gave him a $1000 tip. For parking the car.

The dealers had to split the tips. So, if you specifically handed a dealer a good tip, they had to share it with all the other dealers. Not as nice a system, but everyone gets some at the end of the night.

Paul


86 posted on 02/06/2007 6:47:34 AM PST by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: A. Pole
I find it deeply insulting.

Poor baby. Go home and mommy will kiss it and make it all better.

L

87 posted on 02/06/2007 6:54:38 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: RobRoy

My ex-wife and her sister own a franchise store called Dream Dinners. They have two stores here in Raleigh and Cary, NC. The chain has about 150 stores if I recall. The concept is simple. They have 14 menu items, you go on the website and order 12 units (can do 12 of the same if you'd like), and then go to the store at your scheduled time and assemble the meals. When you leave, you've got 12 ready to cook meals. Costs are a little less than what it would cost to buy the parts and pieces yourself and certainly prep time is minimized. Good business plan.

It's such a good concept that in 2003, there were about 10 chains that were doing this with an average of 2 stores per chain. Now, there are over 300 chains and an average of 12 stores per chain.

It's becoming MUCH more commonplace. Grocery stores are getting on the pre-prepped, ready-to-cook foods. Tyson and several others have started doing pre-prepped meals such as Beef and Gravy (just add potatoes and green beans and you've got a meal), turkey, roast beef and others. Also, they're starting to pre-make the fixings. The sections for these foods used to fit on half a shelf at my grocery store that I shop at. Now, they cover 3 shelves of refrigerator space. That's real market movement considering that I've been using that grocery store for only about a year now.

So, you're right, where the pre-made market is rising rapidly.

Enjoy your brats and hash.

Paul


88 posted on 02/06/2007 6:58:14 AM PST by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: TheLion
I believe that different union contracts have different multiples.

If a job is paid 10 times the government mandated minimum and the minimum goes from $5 to $7...then the union job would go from $50 per hour to $70 per hour.
89 posted on 02/06/2007 7:52:42 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: A. Pole
You leap from one non-sequitur to another. Pope Leo XIII can expound on the relationship of government and labor, but he is not infallible on that subject.

We have labor unions in the US, but membership has decllined over the years to less than 20% of the workforce. Labor unions can be just as oppressive and corrupt as employers.

You seem to favor a more active and larger role for the government in the relationship between employer and employee with the view that the employer is the villian. You have no appreciation for entrepreneurship and the fact that small businessmen must put their own capital at risk to start up a business and make it profitable. They are the engines of prosperity and the ones who create jobs, not the government.

90 posted on 02/06/2007 7:54:08 AM PST by kabar
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To: george76

91 posted on 02/06/2007 8:00:54 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Colorado liberals saddled minimum wage workers with higher taxes and less take home pay. Great job!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

92 posted on 02/06/2007 8:21:33 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: printhead
The Colorado Constitution. I'm sure most of the voters who passed Proposition 42 genuinely wanted to help low income workers have a better standard of living. What they failed to take into consideration that's what a pay raise for workers is an added expenses for small businesses, like restaurants. Every expense costs them money. People are discovering Prop. 42 isn't all benign and because its in the Colorado Constitution it can't be readily fixed when they find out it doesn't work as intended.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

93 posted on 02/06/2007 8:26:29 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: spacewarp

My wife has actually been talking about doing this for about six months now. It just may have a VERY big future.


94 posted on 02/06/2007 8:50:19 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: kabar
You seem to favor a more active and larger role for the government in the relationship between employer and employee with the view that the employer is the villian.

This is a misunderstanding. I am convinced that market economy is needed and that most of employers benefit the common good. I am addressing the anti-worker bias, where the employees are seen as benefactors and workers as recipients, where the corporations are good and unions are bad, where the capital/investment is respected while human labor is reduced to a commodity.

I believe that Free Market Fundamentalism is wrong, that the society should have balance between interests of workers and employers, that mere market is not sufficient to regulate economy and can be a destructive force.

And yes, I think that moderate government intervention and regulation is necessary.

Also I reject the XIX century laissez faire concept night-watchman state. The state is the highest form of social organization and man is a social being by nature.

Returning to the initial phrase: You seem to favor a more active and larger role for the government

I am not sure. Perhaps government is already too "active" and there is no need for "larger role". The question is WHAT role government plays.

95 posted on 02/06/2007 9:13:34 AM PST by A. Pole (XIV century English rhyme: "When Adam delved and Eve span, who was the gentleman?")
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To: freeforall
" Behind every wage control law there is a bunch of people who are threatened by their neighbours' willingness to do the same job for LESS. It's the same mentality that leads closed-shop unionists to call replacement labour "scabs".
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Same principle behind resistance to immigration, too. As a anti immigration protectionist who dislikes McDonalds and earns a nice multiple of the minimum wage I sure as hell do NOT want my food prepared by some poor sot making seven bucks an hour, nor do I want to tip; my negotiation is with the owner via the menu and deciding to eat there or not, not with getting my jollies by deciding who much to tip the worker.
96 posted on 02/06/2007 9:15:16 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: A. Pole

What right do you have to dictate what terms free people should agree to?


97 posted on 02/06/2007 9:31:03 AM PST by freeforall
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To: freeforall
What right do you have to dictate what terms free people should agree to?

Your question is ambiguous.

Are you asking "what right do you have to dictate what free people should do" BEFORE they give consent or "what right do you have to dictate to people AFTER they agreed to certain terms"? Should state to be able to tax people? Should state to be able to draft men to the army? Should state be able to pass laws prohibiting or ordering people to do something? Can majority be able to impose its will om minority and if so in what areas?

98 posted on 02/06/2007 9:44:55 AM PST by A. Pole (XIV century English rhyme: "When Adam delved and Eve span, who was the gentleman?")
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To: A. Pole

The answer is NO! Perhaps, the bill of rights should be read. The only justifaction for the things you ask is during a state of emergency.


99 posted on 02/06/2007 10:25:39 AM PST by freeforall
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To: A. Pole
He had a very good education,

Yes, but not in economics. It was a young discipline at the time, and few educated people, unless they were specialists, had a good grasp of it.

was very smart and had top minds around him.

Yes, top minds in theology, philosophy, and the natural sciences. Not so much in economics.

Do you think that if the elites paid more heed to his warnings and the Bolshevik Revolution (with resulting rise of Fascism and WWII) did not take place, it would be so bad thing?

IMHO, the Bolshevik Revolution and Fascism would have taken place regardless of whether the elites had followed his recommendations. The corporatism he was advocating was no remedy for the problems facing the west.

100 posted on 02/06/2007 11:13:29 AM PST by curiosity
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