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Listing The Cost of Illegal Immigration (Help Complete The List!) - Vanity
soccer8 | 4 February 2007 | self

Posted on 02/05/2007 7:28:50 AM PST by batter

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To: Dante3
Could you be more detailed?
Unmaintained vehicles? Waste due to crowded living conditions?
41 posted on 02/05/2007 7:34:45 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: KeyesPlease

Good one! They are, indeed, entitle to Workers Comp here as well. I would be willing to bed they get a fair amount due to their increased concentration in the construction etc fields.


42 posted on 02/05/2007 7:36:45 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

Good point. It does depend on how widespread the practice is. If it is widespread, it could have a considerable impact.


43 posted on 02/05/2007 7:38:09 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

Just thought of something else. I wonder how often spouses will file separately and claim the EIC and other tax benefits. How would the US gov know they're married?


44 posted on 02/05/2007 7:40:02 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: norton

They do engage in the drug trade here in Utah as well. I was thinking that would be covered in the Law Enforcement aspect (apprehension of criminals).


45 posted on 02/05/2007 7:41:13 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: DumpsterDiver; taxed2death; who knows what evil?

Thanks for the links. They will be very useful.


46 posted on 02/05/2007 7:42:33 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Beelzebubba; art_rocks
B - I should have stated 'crime' more explicitly. That is what I meant by "apprehension of criminals" but should have been more specific to include the cost to victims and prosecutorial costs as well.

art_rocks - I think that would go along with 'wages artificially suppressed'.

47 posted on 02/05/2007 7:47:03 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: ridesthemiles; Nea Wood
rids and Nea - Thanks for bringing this up. I believe it is a valid cost. It's happened to me. One example:

I went to a McDonald's (first time in years). We wondered what was taking so long - by the time it was our turn, we figured it out. Every order had to be translated for the cooks in the back. We walked out and went home for lunch and never returned since. We don't go to several restaurants in the area any longer.

The result - less money entering the local economy (and the future value thereof). I guess the up side is a healthier diet for us (we eat at home more).

48 posted on 02/05/2007 7:53:33 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: azhenfud

That is something I didn't think of. I honestly don't know how many disease outbreaks, particularly of rare/eradicated US diseases, and their treatment costs, are attributable to illegal immigrants in Utah. I would be worth looking into or seeing if the health care field has kept any stats on it.


49 posted on 02/05/2007 7:57:09 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: calcowgirl; LNewman
Thanks for taking my thought one step further than I had. I entirely forgot the interpreter stuff (which transcends many of the categories I posted) nor did I come up with the Housing Assistance they may receive.

Speaking of which, many state agencies are translating their web pages and the state also has a site dedicated to the Hispanic population. That also involves all the administrative costs of implementation and maintenance etc.

50 posted on 02/05/2007 8:00:59 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: soccer8
"They do engage in the drug trade here in Utah as well. I was thinking that would be covered in the Law Enforcement aspect (apprehension of criminals)."

An entirely different category - 'criminal' covers car theft, ID theft, etc. Drugs and other smuggling and distribution is another step up (down?) the scale.
A rather big step.

51 posted on 02/05/2007 8:01:06 PM PST by norton
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To: All; gubamyster
Thanks for all the suggestions and help! FReepers (and FReepettes) can always be depended upon.

Also, sorry for not responding sooner. My errands ended up costing me an entire day (Murphy's Law is real).

gubamyster - a special thanks for pinging you list. I appreciate it.

52 posted on 02/05/2007 8:04:00 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: soccer8

"Listing The Cost of Illegal Immigration (Help Complete The List!)"

"Res ipsa loquitar"

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53 posted on 02/05/2007 8:06:21 PM PST by VOA
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To: norton

Ok. You're right, my "apprehension" isn't descriptive enough. It should be it's own category under law enforcement.


54 posted on 02/05/2007 8:06:50 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: soccer8; All

There is the long term deficit.

You have illegal aliens who take seats in universities; illegals obtaining instate tuitition taking a seat from an instate student by blocking them from getting needed classes.

You also have the cost of allowing CRIMINALS go on the street withoug consequence to criminal conduct. (they should be declared felons as part of the current rolling amnesty so they lose their voting right if they become citizens)

Depression of wages.

Depression of FUTURE income since illegals are here only to pillage and take away.

Now with the new social security give away, social security will be bankrupt faster.

dilution of national cohesion because the illegal population tends to balkanize into enclaves and sub cultures which do not speak the national language.

Univision is a consequence of illegal immigration. There should be no need for a US based spanish language anything. (or any other such massive undertaking)


55 posted on 02/05/2007 10:40:11 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: soccer8
There are consequences specific to communities as well as overall consequence for the country. In my community, with a great influx of immigrants, we face a serious overpopulation issue and problems arising from it. Crowding certainly has many implications (as delineated by Tom Wolfe in his essay "Sliding down the behavioral sink" in The Pump House Gang). Pollution, littering, traffic jams, destruction of scene or historic areas for "affordable housing," etc.

I wish I had saved references to some of the statements made during Sierra Club's last election. They contained some relevant specific data.

56 posted on 02/06/2007 10:18:45 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

I see what you mean, now. Thanks.


57 posted on 02/06/2007 10:51:59 AM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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