Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Texas Girls Will Get HPV Vaccine
News Observer ^ | 02/03/07 | Liz Austin Peterson

Posted on 02/05/2007 7:13:36 AM PST by Froufrou

Bypassing the Legislature altogether, Republican Gov. Rick Perry issued an order Friday making Texas the first state to require that schoolgirls get vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that can cause cervical cancer.

By using an executive order, Perry sidestepped opposition in the Legislature from conservatives and parents-rights groups who fear such a requirement would seem to condone premarital sex and interfere with the way Texans raise their children.

Beginning in September 2008, girls entering the sixth grade -- meaning, generally, girls ages 11 and 12 -- will have to receive Gardasil, Merck & Co.'s new vaccine against strains of the human papillomavirus, or HPV.

Perry also directed state health authorities to make the vaccine available free to girls 9 to 18 who are uninsured or whose insurance does not cover vaccines. In addition, he ordered that Medicaid offer Gardasil to women ages 19 to 21.

Perry, a conservative Christian who opposes abortion and stem-cell research using embryonic cells, counts on the religious right for his political base. But he has said the cervical cancer vaccine is no different from the one that protects children against polio.

"The HPV vaccine provides us with an incredible opportunity to effectively target and prevent cervical cancer," Perry said.

Merck is bankrolling efforts to pass state laws across the country mandating Gardasil for girls as young as 11 or 12. It doubled its lobbying budget in Texas and has funneled money through Women in Government, an advocacy group made up of female state legislators around the country.

Perry has ties to Merck and Women in Government. One of the drug company's three lobbyists in Texas is Mike Toomey, Perry's former chief of staff. His current chief of staff's mother-in-law, Texas Republican state Rep. Dianne White Delisi, is a state director for Women in Government.

The governor also received $6,000 from Merck's political action committee during his re-election campaign.

The order is effective until Perry or a successor changes it, and the Legislature has no authority to repeal it, said Perry spokeswoman Krista Moody. Moody said the Texas Constitution permits the governor to order other members of the executive branch to adopt rules like this one.

Texas allows parents to opt out of inoculations by filing affidavits objecting to vaccines on religious or philosophical reasons. Even with such provisions, however, conservative groups say such requirements interfere with parents' rights to make medical decisions for their children.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: hpvvaccine
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 221-240241-260261-280 ... 301-317 next last
To: HoustonCurmudgeon

"My opposition is to government telling people to take the damn thing. If it prevented something you could catch by casual contact, polio, mumps, measles then great, otherwise butt out of my business."

So, your opposition is that you can get this from EVIL, SINFUL, SEX, as opposed to "innocently."

Yes, by all means, let's let evil sluts die! It's the punishment of heaven!


241 posted on 02/05/2007 2:00:36 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 236 | View Replies]

To: teawithmisswilliams

"Potentially deadly airborne illnesses are one thing. A sexually-transmitted virus is something else."

Yes, evil sluts deserve to die. I understand your position.


242 posted on 02/05/2007 2:01:39 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 238 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan

OK,
I amend it to "Anyone who has sex deserves to die!"


243 posted on 02/05/2007 2:02:56 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 242 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan

Absurdity is not argument.


244 posted on 02/05/2007 2:03:14 PM PST by Palladin (You cannot glorify God better than by a calm and joyous life.--Spurgeon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 214 | View Replies]

To: Alkhin

Uh, you can opt out if you want. It isn't mandatory.


245 posted on 02/05/2007 2:05:09 PM PST by durasell (!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 227 | View Replies]

To: Palladin

I have merely reduced the argument made here to its ridulousness end.

The only meaningful distiction between this vaccine and, say, the polio vaccine, is the sexual component.

If you are against all mandated vaccines for whatever reason, that is one thing (and a position I respect, but disagree with).

If you are aginst this vaccine, in particular, that is another.


246 posted on 02/05/2007 2:05:52 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 244 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan; teawithmisswilliams; HoustonCurmudgeon

Since you brought it up, what about the possibility that the vaccines we have in place won't be strong enough someday down the road? If some of these diseases return, like TB? It happens with antibiotics all the time.

Should we really keep giving kids these vaccines in a time when we hardly ever see the pathogen?

Answer? We have to because THE BORDERS ARE STILL WIDE OPEN.


247 posted on 02/05/2007 2:06:08 PM PST by Froufrou
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 217 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan; Alkhin
Hope your choice doesn't cost your daughter(s) their lives!

Yeah, if you don't get your 11 year old this vaccine right away, you may be signing her death warrant!

/

You're sounding as hysterical as a confused leftie on this.

248 posted on 02/05/2007 2:06:27 PM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 233 | View Replies]

To: Alkhin
Im INFURIATED that my faith as a citizen of this state and country has been MANDATED/ORDERED/DICTATED to take this vaccine...

Hi, welcome to the conversation. Your faith(?) has not been mandated/ordered/dictated to take this vaccine. You can opt out, the state is required to let you out.

especially since this is the FIRST TIME I have ever heard there was such a vaccine...

It was approved last June, and has been a big topic of discussion on FreeRepublic, in the literature, and less so in the MSM. Keep your ears open, medicine is an interesting and important field.

on top of that, it has not gone through the years of study.

It's gone through over five years of study in over 20,000 humans, almost all of whom have gone on to live healthy lives. In fact, the test group that received Gardasil had more live (and healthy!) births than did the placebo group. I don't think the difference is statistically significant, but it may indicate an unforeseen benefit to the unborn.

Ive been very lucky that my daughter had no adverse reacions to vaccines before,

Not really; serious adverse effects from vaccinations are extremely rare. There's no luck involved in surviving a vaccination regimen.

HE DOES NOT GET TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY DAUGHTER!

He's not. He's giving the public school system instructions on who they may and may not enroll. And he's giving you an easy way around that policy.

Smeg him!

If this were another website, I'd assume you were a gimmick poster. But I'm not so sure.

249 posted on 02/05/2007 2:06:30 PM PST by Caesar Soze
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 227 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan

"The trans-tex corridor is the worst liberal boondoogle in Texas history."

At least we agree on that!!! Boondoggle? Isn't that Grandma's word? ;o)


250 posted on 02/05/2007 2:07:45 PM PST by Froufrou
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 230 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan
Where did you get that from?

This is not about sluts it is about young girls.

A better ,less intrusive test could be formulated.

Those merk jerks should pay for there own tests with their own money.

They should use willing test subjects.

For Gods sake, the foster care children have been bought.

Do you have no compassion for orphans!
251 posted on 02/05/2007 2:08:14 PM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 241 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan
You really are a foolish little man aren't you. I never said, nor thought, anything other than it is not a communicable disease. Where pray tell did you get that it had anything to do with sex? You can't win the debate so you move to the reprehensible.

You really need to rethink your life. I will pray for you.

BTW I am somewhat familiar with early, unmarried pregnancy as I have an adopted son and daughter and my wife and I worked many years as volunteers at DePelcian Faith Home in Houston.

252 posted on 02/05/2007 2:14:49 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 241 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan
I think the argument that conservatives are against this because it will take away a disincentive to have unprotected sex is an enormous red herring. I think that reasonable people might have issues with this for a number of other / additional reasons -- the executive-order end run around the legislature, the seemingly cozy relationship with Merck, the fact that this seems a bit heavy handed for a virus that is not particularly easy to catch (unlike, say, polio or diphtheria, for which we do vaccinate more or less universally and thus get a good amount of "herd immunity" to guard against epidemics since vaccines are not 100% effective and not everyone gets the vaccine). Having said that, if the argument is to be made that the potential public health benefit is worth it, then boys should absolutely be getting this vaccine as well -- since not being able to spread HPV will enhance herd immunity very much. However, then Merck will not be able to market this as a way to "help women by preventing cancer" and will have to be honest and explain that this is actually a vaccine for an STD that causes about 70% of cervical cancers. BTW -- I would bet money that many people think that that stat means that 70% of women who get HPV go on to develop cervical cancer, which is of course not at all true, especially given the huge numbers of women who have had HPV.
253 posted on 02/05/2007 2:15:22 PM PST by ConservativePsychProf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: perseid 67

I have not addressed anything about the foster-care test. I am talking about the state-wide program.

To repeat a previous post:

I have merely reduced the argument made here to its ridulousness end.

The only meaningful distiction between this vaccine and, say, the polio vaccine, is the sexual component.

If you are against all mandated vaccines for whatever reason, that is one thing (and a position I respect, but disagree with).

If you are aginst this vaccine, in particular, that is another.


254 posted on 02/05/2007 2:16:22 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 251 | View Replies]

To: Palladin
And what happens when this vaccine turns out to be Merck's new VIOXX?

And what happens if it turns out to be the next aspirin and is perfectly harmless and quite effective? What if it saves thousands of lives every year, reduces medical costs by a billion dollars, improves the cohesiveness of families, and allows more healthy children to be born?

You can cherry-pick examples of drugs having unforeseen adverse effects, especially if abused, and make it look like the entire pharmaceutical industry peddles nothing but snake oil. That would be dishonest. Most drugs that receive FDA approval are safe for their intended uses. This one has also gotten applause from ACIP. Is it possible that it could lead to something bad down the road? Certainly. Is it likely? Not very.

255 posted on 02/05/2007 2:19:53 PM PST by Caesar Soze
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 237 | View Replies]

To: HoustonCurmudgeon

Follow the thread up, you'll understand.

I am fairly sure I remember you from Midland. You were clueless, then, too.


256 posted on 02/05/2007 2:20:00 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 252 | View Replies]

To: teawithmisswilliams

> Yeah, if you don't get your 11 year old this vaccine
> right away, you may be signing her death warrant!

Your attempt at sarcasm notwithstanding: Yes.

The vaccine is only effective if it is received before exposure to the virus.

When is your daughter going to start having sex?


257 posted on 02/05/2007 2:25:25 PM PST by voltaires_zit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 248 | View Replies]

To: MeanWestTexan
Given you are unable to follow a point I will tell you again. You and Perry have no right to tell me and mine to take medication that is not for a communicable disease. Period.

I think I also remember you. You were an uneducated bully and I pounded your face in the dirt at Fannin Elementary and you ran home to your mother. I think I was in 3rd grade and you were 6th. Does your mom still dress you funny?

258 posted on 02/05/2007 2:30:12 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 256 | View Replies]

To: teawithmisswilliams
Perry couldn't get it through the legislature. It looks to me like corrupt government, and an unwarranted power grab by the state over young girls.

This is exactly why I don't think Perry tried to push it through the legislature.

He doesn't have to answer to you or me, but our local reps would have to answer to us in 2008 and he knows they wouldn't dare touch this.
259 posted on 02/05/2007 2:33:22 PM PST by af_vet_rr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 238 | View Replies]

To: Caesar Soze
Hi, welcome to the conversation. Your faith(?) has not been mandated/ordered/dictated to take this vaccine. You can opt out, the state is required to let you out. Which automatically puts anyone who objects on a list for the government to see. ANOTHER Nannystate tactic that is thoroughly socialist. Its really none of their business whether I object or not. Fortunately, I homeschool, so I am not going to be forced personally...but I find this to be thoroughly offensive for those whose children do go to public school.

It was approved last June, and has been a big topic of discussion on FreeRepublic, in the literature, and less so in the MSM. Keep your ears open, medicine is an interesting and important field.

Duh! Why do you think Im PO'd?! I KNOW this particular vaccine has not gone through enough testing...

He's not. He's giving the public school system instructions on who they may and may not enroll. And he's giving you an easy way around that policy. HE ISSUED A STATE MANDATE REQUIRING THAT THIS BE FORCED ON SCHOOL CHILDREN PLAIN AND SIMPLE - WHAT PART OF "REQUIRED" DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?!

HE ISSUED A STATE MANDATE.

I DONT GIVE A F(*^(&T%^$^%&&%^&%!!!! DING DONG D**N IF HE LIMPWRISTED A CAVEAT -

I REPEAT: HE ISSUED A STATE MANDATE AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND BY THAT LAW HAS SET UP THE PROTESTING PARENT FOR LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THEM

THIS IS WRONG!

I also dont give a ding dong d**n what all the doctor evidence says -

THIS IS WRONG!

GET THE PICTURE?!

260 posted on 02/05/2007 2:39:23 PM PST by Alkhin (star dust contemplating star dust)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 249 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 221-240241-260261-280 ... 301-317 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson