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MI5, police and SAS practise for a 'Beslan' siege
The Guardian (UK) ^ | February 4, 2007 | Jamie Doward and Antony Barnett

Posted on 02/04/2007 4:51:27 PM PST by Mount Athos

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How prepared are we?
1 posted on 02/04/2007 4:51:30 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

We're not. Almost all schools exist in "violence free" and "gun free" zones.


2 posted on 02/04/2007 4:53:25 PM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Mount Athos

Sitting ducks.


3 posted on 02/04/2007 4:56:45 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Malacoda
We have an American QRF for a Beslan seige, available anywhere in the United States in 5 hours: Columbine Police and Sheriffs Department.

Or we could send in BATFE and just kill everyone.

4 posted on 02/04/2007 5:01:17 PM PST by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: DCBryan1

Sorry, forgot to turn off my </dripping sarcasm> tag.


5 posted on 02/04/2007 5:03:03 PM PST by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: Mount Athos

How prepared are we?

We've taken premptive action!

We outsmarted them, ALL of our schools prohibit guns on campus!


6 posted on 02/04/2007 5:18:14 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Malacoda

As they should.

But that would violate a 13-year old's second amendement rights.


7 posted on 02/04/2007 5:32:18 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Mount Athos
The following is a very scary article about the lack of preparedness of our U.S. schools. I highly recommend reading all of it.

http://www.americandaughter.com/index.html?http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/?p=1135
8 posted on 02/04/2007 5:37:30 PM PST by wintertime
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

When I went to school in Hampton Virginia in the 50s, they offered marksmanship as a class taught by an NRA certified instructor. I took it. On those days I had marksmanship probably a third of the school carried rifles to class and there were zero incidents.
They need to bring back this tradition, no fruitcake muzzie group would dare try and take over a school where a third or more of the students are packing firearms.
Muzzies are cowards and only attack the weak and unsuspecting.


9 posted on 02/04/2007 5:46:29 PM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Mount Athos

How many Americans have ever heard of Beslan? very few, I'll bet. The DBM's greatest power is in determining what will be a story and they were not interested in this massacre. It's very sad that the DBM thinks conservatives are the enemy.


10 posted on 02/04/2007 5:51:01 PM PST by Freee-dame
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So basically we've resolved that this IS going to happen, and instead of cracking down on Muslims everywhere, we're going to WAIT for it to happen, then respond to that emergency...?

It's funny, you know after OKBOMB, all the King's horses and men were running around, talking about how scary Christians were, and anyone that owned a gun was a criminal waiting to explode.

But now? THIS..!

11 posted on 02/04/2007 7:03:45 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Malacoda

"Almost all schools exist in "violence free" and "gun free" zones."

Drug free, also. I've seen the signs.


12 posted on 02/04/2007 7:06:38 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: BuffaloJack; abercrombie_guy_38
When I went to school in Hampton Virginia in the 50s

I graduated in 1990 from Little Rock Catholic High. Our principal, Father Tribou told us that anyone heading to the woods on FRI need to park their car where faculty can keep an eye on their "gear".

PS Abercrombie, read my tagline.

13 posted on 02/04/2007 7:14:46 PM PST by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: wintertime
I read this article earlier today. The information in it left me a little queasy, and so I went for a walk to clear my head. I walked past a Greek Orthodox church with attached school. It sits directly across from a park where young Muslim men gather every day at lunchtime. I am frequently there at the exact same time, walking my arthritic old dog. He takes forever, so I have quite alot of time to observe the lunchtime park strollers.

This is a funny pocket in a very "ethnically diverse" city, and you cannot tell the Muslim Lebanese from the Marionette Lebanese. You can't tell the Muslim Albanians from the Eastern Orthodox Catholics. You can, however, tell the young Muslims who gather every day with their used, meticulous BMW's and their tricked-out Nissans. They are just bursting with youth, arrogance, and wannabe Wahabbism. They sneer at every person who passes by, they thump their chests and pretty much intimidate the poor working guys who just sit in their trucks and try to enjoy the break. These young Muslims don't just stink, they reek.

Bottom line is that many of the children who attend the Greek school are Romanian, Albanian, or Hungarian. The old men, the grandfathers of these little kids, are a forceful presence in this park. Every single day, they are there, dressed in starched shirts, ties, and fedoras. They pick their grandchildren up from school and escort them to the playground in the park. These wrinkled, aged old guys have more guts than any metro-hetro gov't worker who can't even know what is happening in that park. These old time guys know what evil truly is, and they have no choice here in the United States of Tolerance than to be there in that park, to let those Muslim punk kids know...."not here. It will never be here, because I will kill you before you kill me". I've been watching this dance since September. The old time guys from countries where the true horrors happened, lean on the U.S.A. freedom like it was shield.

Long, long story short...the oldtimers know what the Muslim youngbloods are capable of, and so they are there is the park every day. If a bomb goes off in the Greek school, those old guys will be the first responders, probably not for the first time.

The Muslims here flaunt the idiocy of U.S. "tolerance" and nowhere has that been more evident to me than the walks I take in the park, waiting for His Majesty and snapping every youngbloods' picture surreptitiously.

I do not mean any offense, but I count on the most intelligent Muslims to understand that right now, they have to go back. They cannot stay here while we struggle to defeat them and hold off the Marxists at the same time.
14 posted on 02/04/2007 7:28:38 PM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Freee-dame

What is DBM ?


15 posted on 02/04/2007 8:00:25 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Mount Athos; All; Calpernia

There is a good article on American schools and the needs to be prepared here:


http://justwhatithink.com/blog/

Mass Slaughter in Our Public Schools: The Terrorists' Chilling Plan


16 posted on 02/04/2007 8:09:47 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Pray for peace, but prepare for the worst disaster. Protect your loved ones.)
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To: ishabibble

Interesting post, good that you are seeing with knowing eyes and not missing the facts.


17 posted on 02/04/2007 8:12:42 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Pray for peace, but prepare for the worst disaster. Protect your loved ones.)
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To: Mount Athos

http://justwhatithink.com/blog/
Mass Slaughter in Our Public Schools: The Terrorists' Chilling Plan

Excerpt

Probably the last place you want to think of terrorists striking is your kids' school. But according to two trainers at an anti-terrorism conference on the East Coast, preparations for attacks on American schools that will bring rivers of blood and staggering body counts are well underway in Islamic terrorist camps.

* The intended attackers have bluntly warned us they're going to do it.

* They're already begun testing school-related targets here.

* They've given us a catastrophic model to train against, which we've largely ignored and they've learned more deadly tactics from.

"We don't know for sure what they will do. But by definition, a successful attack is one we are not ready for," declared one of the instructors, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman. Our schools fit that description to a "T"-as in Terrorism and Threat.


18 posted on 02/04/2007 8:17:12 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

bump


19 posted on 02/04/2007 8:18:22 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ishabibble

Wow. Bump.

Tip your hat for me to those old [all knowing] timers.


20 posted on 02/04/2007 8:22:11 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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