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3/11: "You May Deceive...
EL MUNDO - Libertad Digital ^ | January - February 2007 | J Aguilar

Posted on 02/04/2007 12:24:53 PM PST by J Aguilar

You may deceive all the people part of the time, and part of the people all the time, but not all the people all the time.

Abraham Lincoln

Following previous revelations, these last two weeks have been full of events regarding the investigations of the biggest massacre of Spanish history, which resulted in a change of government. This humble Spanish citizen has tried to build a summary of them:

First of all, Toro and Trashorras, the miners that allegedly supplied the explosives for 3/11 attack, according to the Official Version, were found guilty of charges of drug trafficking. Witness Lavandera testimony was admitted by the court as evidence to support such sentence.

The court considers proven that former miner Trashorras also trafficked with explosives even as late as 2003, when he was acting as informer of the chief inspector of narcotics of Avilés precinct, Manuel García-Rodríguez, aka Manolón.

Toro and Trashorras were caught in 2001 with 86 kilograms of hash, almost 3 kilograms of cocaine, 16 Goma-2 ECO cartridges and 94 industrial detonators. They have been sentenced to 11 and 10 years in prison, respectively.

Lavandera has also told to EL MUNDO newspaper that when he denounced Toro and Trahorras explosives trafficking business in 2001, he received pressures from the National Police to keep quiet. The other Spanish Nation-wide security corps, the Civil Guard, did not take action either.

Why?

More news that have been published these last two weeks in Spain:

Colonel Hernando Hide that the UCO Kept Trashorras and Toro Under Surveillance Even After He Handed Over the Investigation to Asturias [Command].

The newspaper EL MUNDO published this Monday another proof of Félix Hernando, colonel chief of the Operative Central Unit [UCO] of the Civil Guard, false testimony before the 3/11 Parliamentary Commission. He appeared on July 20th 2004, and then he affirmed that it was in February 2003 when his unit has ceased to keep under surveillance Trashorras, for whom the State attorney is asking a longer sentence in the Judicial Summary of the massacre, and Antonio Toro. However, there are various subsequent reports that give detail of all the steps taken by the ex-miner and his brother-in-law in explosives trafficking, weapons and drugs. It includes that, one year before 3/11 the intention of the two indicted ones, was to sell a big amount of Goma-2.

Related to this:

An Officer of the UCO Requested to Destroy the Report that Hernando hide to the 3/11 Commission of Investigation.

A subordinate of Colonel Hernando, the sub lieutenant Jaime Trigos, asked the second commander of the Oviedo Command [in Asturias], to destroy a report that the chief of the Operative Central Unit hide to the 3/11 Parliamentary Commission, according to the revelations from EL MUNDO. The report proofs that Hernando lied and, against anything said, his unit kept under surveillance Trashorras and Toro through all Spain even when the investigation was already in the hands of the Civil Guard from Asturias. Judge Del Olmo did not take any action against him, even though he checked in a confrontation that the testimony of the commander from Oviedo was firmer. The National High Court has asked Congress to send urgently the [transcription of the] appearance of Hernando and Sánchez-Manzano.

Colonel Hernando is not a common Civil Guard officer. He was the right-hand man of Rafael Vera, former Secretary of Interior during the long Socialist president González term (1982-1996). Involved in the Dirty War against ETA, Vera was sentenced in 1998 to 10 years in prison for illegal detention and misappropriation of public funds in the kidnapping of Segundo Marey, and released after the Aznar government granted them a partial amnesty. On January 2002, he was sentenced again to seven years in prison on continued public funds misappropriation charges. The court estimated that he subtracted well above 3 million euro.

Colonel Hernando himself has an opened court process in which he is indicted on charges of carrying to Switzerland the money to buy the silence of police officers involved in such Dirty War.

According to recent informations (December 11th, 2006), Rafael Vera also played a role in 3/11:

Vera Told the Socialist Party that Islamists were to be Arrested From an Office Provided by Rodríguez-Ibarra.

The last revelation by EL MUNDO on 3/11 gives the name of the person that advanced the Socialist party the steps that took the Police in the hours immediately after 3/11. Casimiro García-Abadillo discovers that was Rafael Vera, former Secretary of State for Security [Interior], the one that informed through telephone the Socialist party leaders. He was doing it, he details, from an office arranged by the president of the Junta de Extremadura [autonomous government of the region of Extremadura]. From there, on March 12, he told the Socialist Party that the next day would be carried out arrests of Islamists. His source, according to the former secretary of state himself, was the French antiterrorist judge Laurence Levert.

Therefore, we have got evidence that Rafael Vera, a convicted criminal found guilty of charges related to State terrorism and a man under whose command many Spanish high rank security officers made their careers, was coordinating the information that arrived to the Socialist Party in the hours AFTER the attack, information on which the Aznar government was accused publicly by all MSM of lying, turning the result of the Elections. His right-hand man, colonel Hernando, a man with a trial pending, was the chief of the unit that not only controlled the alleged source of the explosive for it, but also Rafa Zouhier, an informer upon whose testimony most of the Official Version lies. Moreover, colonel Hernando was caught lying on such matters and a subordinate of him allegedly requested a report that proves this to be destroyed.

My friends, this cannot be compared to any reclamation in the 9/11 or 7/7 cases. This goes well beyond a Conspiracy Theory to become a conspiracy by itself. We still do not know many details, but we the Spaniards have already heard this tune of police corruption and state terrorism: it was known as the GAL case.

I don't know why after the First World War, a second had to be fought; or why after the First Gulf War, troops moved into the second. It seems that disasters have to happen twice in order our politicians tackle the underlying problem.

Some other news regarding 3/11:

Now that Judge Del Olmo has left the case and the trial is to begin in two weeks, further decisions are being taken by the court that is going to judge the case (and finds that the accusation is pretty weak):

The National High Court Orders New Analysis on the Explosive Used on 3/11 and Summons Henri Parot and the Two other ETA Members of Cañaveras.

Therefore, the National High Court acknowledges that the analyses carried out are not reliable, and that ETA might have played a role in the massacre, against what Zapatero government says and the MSM repeat.

In addition:

The National High Court Requests the Congress to Send “Urgently” Seven Testimonies Given Before the 3/11 Commission of Investigation.

Those seven testimonies correspond to six high rank security officers and minister Acebes:

Félix Hernando, colonel chief of the Operative Central Unit (UCO) of the Civil Guard
Pedro Díaz Pintado, former deputy operative director of the National Police
Juan Jesús Sánchez-Manzano, former chief of the TEDAX (Explosive deactivation experts)
Ángel Acebes, former minister of Interior Calleja Menéndez, chief inspector of the UDYCO, Drugs and Organized Crime Unit, National Police
Luis Martín Gómez, chief inspector of the Scientific Police group in Alcalá de Henares precinct
"Agent Víctor", civil guard that worked in the UCO and was the contact of informer Rafa Zouhier

Well, it seems Judge Gómez-Bermúdez, a man that has been twice removed from the court that will judge 3/11 and has returned three times, a discommoding person for the Socialist Party, might, at least, try to restitute its true significance to the word Justice in Spain.

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We have received requests for more information about the Atocha video, which you can watch at Youtube. In that video, a man whose description may fit into a particular member of ETA, is seen fleeing from the explosions.

He is simply that, a man that might look like an ETA member (and ETA has hundreds of members). The video was closely examined by experts from all sides, and not a single evidence on that matter was found. Moreover, no members of such criminal group dare to stand close to the site of their attacks, they usually prefer to shot from behind unarmed people, never exposing themselves.

The Black Pawns civic movement, people that want the truth on 3/11, has suffered a hoax attack in which that same video was used to ram into discussion forums.

Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves...

Things are not so easy. Black Pawns' inspirer, Luis del Pino, a man that does not step into theories; had to dig in a Judicial Summary of more than 50,000 pages to slowly find contradictory reports, checked them, confirm them, and finally, sometimes one year later, publish those informations.

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There has been a last event in these last two weeks, a rally yesterday that congregated hundreds of thousands under the motto: For Freedom, Let's Defeat ETA Together, Against the Negotation, because Zapatero is still negotiating with ETA, even though two people died flatten in Barajas airport on December 30th.

Why is Zapatero so willing to talk to such criminals? What is written on their secret agenda that seems to be working no matter there are attacks or not? I don't know, but don't worry that we will find it out.

I´ll leave some pics of yesterday's rally. In the end, Spanish people may not be as lost as some think:

"To Negotiate is To Surrender","ETA-Zapatero-PSOE, Who is behind 3/11?" National, regional flags. A flag from Ecuador, from where the two latest terror victims came.

The rally on a flat screen near the madrilean Alcalá Gate, where it ended.

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Not yet, Mr. Russell, not yet.

More data on 3/11 here:
The Mystery of 3/11 - Part 1
The Mystery of 3/11 - Part 2
The Mystery of 3/11 - Part 3
3/11 Revisited - Part 1

More data on 3/11 in Spanish here:
Luis del Pino's blog
Kickjor's blog


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 11march; 311

1 posted on 02/04/2007 12:24:55 PM PST by J Aguilar
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To: Cardhu

ping


2 posted on 02/04/2007 12:27:22 PM PST by null and void (<----- Shocked and odd...)
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To: JerseyHighlander; Incorrigible; Tolik; GladesGuru; marron; .cnI redruM; livius; billorites; Wiz; ...
More 3/11. The Usual Corrupted Police Suspects seem to have a central role in the smoke screen built around the attack.

Enjoy it!
3 posted on 02/04/2007 12:29:25 PM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: J Aguilar

Please help a fellow FReeper out. What is the one or two sentence description of the issue here, please? Thanks.


4 posted on 02/04/2007 12:52:29 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Al Qaeda had nothing to do with 3/11. It was probably a coup of ETA covered by corrupted Spanish police officers.

The BBC is lying about 3/11 right now in the European Edition: among other things, bombs contained no shrapnel. Good was Blair forcing your director to resign.


5 posted on 02/04/2007 12:57:11 PM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: J Aguilar

The bombs contained no shrapnel because had it not been a failed attack, they wouldn't have needed any.


6 posted on 02/04/2007 12:59:56 PM PST by null and void (<----- Shocked and odd...)
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To: J Aguilar

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Over a thousand years ago...

a baby Spain's EL CID (The King)...

unified warring villages into a nation

to repel a Moorish invasion

that then threatened to

take over the rest of Europe.


Where is an EL CID now,

...with the same threat reborn..?


This time IN A NUCLEAR AGE..?

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7 posted on 02/04/2007 1:01:03 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: J Aguilar
Al Qaeda had nothing to do with 3/11. It was probably a coup of ETA covered by corrupted Spanish police officers.

Wow. That's a big claim.

Thanks for the reply.

8 posted on 02/04/2007 1:19:41 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam; ALOHA RONNIE; null and void
rogue yam,

Type 3/11 in the search box and then click on "Search". You'll get some evidence to support such big claim.

null and void,

The bombs contained no shrapnel because had it not been a failed attack, they wouldn't have needed any.

The bombs were probably much smaller than a backpack. They had to be so in order to be well disguished. Therefore, there was no place for shrapnel. Moreover, in a small space, it is not needed, the shockwave carries out the job.

BBC* probably had to convince the public that a drug dealer, a shopkeeper of Lavapies and an intellectual islamist were so cruel to carry out such an attack.

ALOHA RONNIE

El Cid did not threaten Europe. He simply defended Spain, both Muslim and Christian kingdoms and the Jew minority from the Muslim extremist invasion and then conquered the city of Valencia, a strategic point from where stop them. The name comes from said (sa-EED) which means lord, not king.

I don't know whether El Cid may reborn or not. I only know what I see, and unlike other times, Spanish people could not be moved last summer against the Israeli attacks in Lebanon.
9 posted on 02/04/2007 1:50:17 PM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: J Aguilar
The attack was a failure because the trains were late. Had they been on time the detonations would have occurred in the Atocha train station.

The Atocha train station has a glass roof.

The intent was to drop a couple tons of razor sharp glass shards on platforms crowded with morning commuters.

Who needs a few nails?
10 posted on 02/04/2007 1:57:27 PM PST by null and void (<----- Shocked and odd...)
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To: J Aguilar

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Thank you for your EL CID (The LORD) translation correction, J Aguilar.

Seems it's been a long, long time since I first saw the inspiring PHILLIP YORDAN scripted 1961 Motion Picture classic...

.."EL CID"..

starring CHARLETON HESTON, SOPHIA LOREN and RAF VALLONE.

And then seeing it's Re-release, on a Hollywood C-I-N-E-R-A-M-A Dome's super curved wide-screen in the 1990's ...thanks to Director MARTIN SCORSESE's loving restoration. Time for his Restoration to be released on DVD, perhaps..?

.."EL CID"..

is a truly heroic story about how one Man of Courage really can make a difference out there. Saving a nation from invasion, both from without and within. And then saving Western Civilization in the process 1,000 years ago.

The Stuff that a Freedom-fighting President GEORGE W. BUSH is also made of 1,000 years later.


NEVER FORGET

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11 posted on 02/04/2007 4:01:54 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: J Aguilar

If Vera led the dirty war against ETA, its odd that he would be drawn into a conspiracy with them, essentially facilitating and helping to cover up their involvement.


12 posted on 02/04/2007 5:35:28 PM PST by marron
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To: marron; ALOHA RONNIE; null and void
GOOD POINT, marron!!!

I was waiting for that question.

Why was the Ribbentrop-Molotov (or Hitler-Stalin) pact signed? Hadn't Hitler said that his intention was to expand eastwards?

Of course, Hitler and Stalin needed the pact to carry out a gain for both of them (Poland, invaded by both countries) against a common enemy: the capitalist nations of France and the UK.

Fascism always tends to come together against a common enemy: they are highly compatible in ideology and means (you know, Vera was found guilty of a charge related to State TERRORISM: Segundo Marey kidnapping).

Moreover, Vera was also found guilty of public funding misappropriation, well beyond 3 million euro, money that has not returned. That amount came from the Reserved Funds, approved to pay informers in the fight against ETA, but that usually ended in the pockets of Vera and probably, other high rank security officers.

This prompts two conclusions:

The first one: the more attacks from ETA, the bigger amount of money in the "Reserved Funds" item in the National Budget, and the more those high rank security officials and politicians got. They were getting rich from terrorism and they would not like ETA being crushed, as Aznar did, but only contained.

The second, Vera might have information about a lot of high rank security officers that got money from the Reserved Funds. If they didn't follow his indications, he could denounce them before the National High Court.

Now all of you know what we think was the core of the 3/11 case and what motivated those people to act that way. What I find really striking and somewhat risible is that the MSM, very prestigious ones indeed, repeat as parrots an Official Version probably conceived by a convicted criminal related to State terrorism, that has stolen more than 3 million euro in public funding.

null and void

Three explosions happened in Atocha station, which has no glass cover, by the way. They were powerful enough to kill a lot of people in a concealed space, but not to affect the building at all.

It is true that the first train was late by one minute or so, but terrorist have loaded a second, that was waiting just outside Atocha, with four bombs, to carry the job in the station.

ALOHA RONNIE

You are welcome!

I also think EL CID motion picture, or EL CID story itself, fits very well in today's events. Unlike other ones, such as the films regarding the Cold War, that have become a bit outdated, somewhat historical; EL CID, from that historical conception, has gained modernness with time. Sure, I do really think that it should be released again in DVD, and even used as a tool for training on the threat that some of the Muslim world may pose to Westerners and the opportunities we have to defeat them.

is a truly heroic story about how one Man of Courage really can make a difference out there. Saving a nation from invasion, both from without and within. And then saving Western Civilization in the process 1,000 years ago.

It was heroic indeed. There was also treason at the highest level, but he managed to survive. So many times had Spain to depend on the talent and courage of a single man!

The Stuff that a Freedom-fighting President GEORGE W. BUSH is also made of 1,000 years later.

Thank God.

NEVER FORGET

Otherwise, history will repeat, and the people that died on the battlegrounds would have done it for nothing.
13 posted on 02/05/2007 1:13:52 AM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: J Aguilar

Thanks for the corrections. I was misinformed.


14 posted on 02/05/2007 6:37:28 AM PST by null and void (<----- Shocked and odd...)
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To: All; J Aguilar; Richard Poe; Jimmy Valentine's brother; smoothsailing

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I really appreciate your CLARITY and assistance, J Aguilar.

It is a pleasure connecting with you on something that's been very dear to my heart. Spreading the lessons of EL CID of 1,000 years ago to the now.

I was blessed, through his on the air kindness, to co-narrate LIVE the 9/11 Attacks on former Congressman BOB DORNAN's National Talk Radio Network Show. On the next day's Radio Show I shared with BOB how we all now needed to see "EL CID" to better understand these attacks against us.

A little later on I was further blessed to be able to personally thank Screenwriter PHILIP YORDAN for his sterling "EL CID" model to follow in a new time of war. With an enemy that's now re-emerging from 1,000 years ago to again try to take us all over ...or else.

"EL CID" =

One Person's commitment to CLARITY ...does make a DIFFERENCE.


AR

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15 posted on 02/05/2007 8:16:35 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
huh! 9/11 live! and you knew the scriptwriter! OK, here it goes:

El Cid was an outstandingly talented 11th century nobleman repudiated by his king due to a court plot, that in times of need fought along his Castilian followers as a freelance, commanding armies from other Spanish Christian and Muslim kingdoms and thus deterring an overwhelming invasion of a Muslim extremist armies from Northern Africa.

You may use "orthodox" instead "extremist".

I've written an excerpt of his life and deeds:

Born in 1043, he was raised together with the prince of Castile, with whom he fought all across what is today Spain and Portugal; wining ample recognition from the people, who called him with affection Cid, which means Lord in Arab; and the primacy over all other noblemen in the king's court.

When king Sancho died murdered, El Cid forced his brother Alfonso in his coronation to swear that he was not involved in the plot. Castile could not afford a monarch under suspicion, when Muslim orthodox armies were assembling on both sides of Gibraltar strait. Alfonso, jealous and humiliated, repudiated El Cid as subdit. Three hundred Castilian knights accompanied him to exile.

El Cid fought during the following years in Eastern Spain. As the second step of the Moorish invasion began, he conquered Valencia in 1094, a strategic point to hinder the movements of the enemy armies. El Cid crushed them at the gates of that city soon after, their first defeat, and collaborated with kings in keeping a defence line that stretched to Toledo, all through central Spain. He died in 1099.

A third invasion wave struck around 1120, but the tide has already turned and the kings of Castile and Portugal defeated them, soon thereafter the Almoravid Empire of Northern Africa collapsed.

The Song of Mio Cid, written around 1200, portrays his life and is one of the first works in Spanish language.



El Cid memorial in Burgos. Regards, J Aguilar
16 posted on 02/06/2007 7:28:03 AM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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