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Achieving Socially Conservative Ideals Through Liberal Means: Making The Case for Rudy (2008)
Red State ^ | February 4, 2007 | D.M. Eaton

Posted on 02/04/2007 11:08:45 AM PST by Clintonfatigued

For this reason, contrary to conventional wisdom, a victory by Rudy Giuliani would strengthen even the socially conservative agenda in the long run. As the new Fox Dynamics Poll shows, 65 percent of Americans would be “comfortable” with a Rudy Giuliani administration. Being comfortable is a major step in the right direction. Americans might actually listen to him when gives the State of the Union (without a teleprompter no less, as he usually speaks with note cards or does so extemporaneously). A Giuliani administration that would focus on fighting the Islamic Extremists, reducing the size and scope of government, handling crisis, and putting strict constructionists on the bench who will interpret the law properly will draw more support from more people in the short term. This will translate to more understanding of conservative policies on other matters because individuals will have more patience to read the conservative ramblings of columnists and pundits. In the long run, as a result this will turn into more votes. As Winston Churchill is often quoted, "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain"...

Due to the challenges facing this country, this election cycle we Republicans need to nominate someone with an actual record of accomplishment of tackling seemingly intractable problems. As George Will said on “This Week,” “His eight years as mayor of New York were the most successful episode of conservative governance in this country in the last 50 years, on welfare and crime particularly." Giuliani, more than any other candidate (Romney comes the closest) has the record of taking on major institutions and reforming them.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; bluestate; burnnycburn; elections; goombah; guiliani; liberal; medialies; mussoliniclone; nonchristian; notanythingwrongwit; nyscks; rudy; rudysroomate; socialist
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To: EternalVigilance

That "answer" is not responsive.


181 posted on 02/04/2007 2:42:01 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: narses

Oh the horror!


182 posted on 02/04/2007 2:42:23 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: Popman
Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it.
Rudy Giuliani
183 posted on 02/04/2007 2:44:10 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Torie
Is original sin saying that God wires man to sin? That does not seem Godly.

Trying to blame God for man's own sin is an extremely old game...one at which none of your forerunners have ever succeeded.

But, if you had your ears open, you'd be glad to find out that, while He didn't cause us to sin, He did make the decision to bear the penalty of that sin for us. Pretty generous, don't you think?

184 posted on 02/04/2007 2:44:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Hydroshock

Yeah, Rino Rudy: who threw Yassir Arafat out of the Met (that's one of the world's most prestigious opera houses) because he felt that Arafat was nothing more than a murderous, felonious, Jew hating, AIDS-riden terrorist.

Weak-kneed libs were very upset about this little action, but the rest of us cheered! Learn more about our Rudy!


185 posted on 02/04/2007 2:44:54 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Sherman Logan

"If we're going to restrict the field to those who have never had an affair or been divorced, it's going to really narrow things down. There goes Newt, for one."

I didn't say anything about banning those who have been divorced from office. Giuliani CHEATED ON HIS WIFE, publicly, in front of his child, in Gracie Mansion. As to losing Newt, well, gee willikers, Wally, that's a sacrifice? Given his negatives, the only thing Newt could bring the GOP as a nominee is certain defeat. I don't know who is putting up his bankroll, but the people who think nominating him would mean happy days are here again for conservatives are really deluding themselves.


186 posted on 02/04/2007 2:45:04 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; narses

;)


187 posted on 02/04/2007 2:45:45 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: miss marmelstein

I have looked at Rino Rudy's stances on social issues. that is why I can never vote for the liberal.


188 posted on 02/04/2007 2:45:55 PM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, I know, but just as my heart aches for all the babies murdered in their mothers womb, my heart also aches for a country that has so many showing utter contempt for our Creator.


189 posted on 02/04/2007 2:46:04 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: Torie
That "answer" is not responsive.

Hey, you were unresponsive to my overwhelming evidence that sodomy has always been rampant in Muslim society.

190 posted on 02/04/2007 2:46:12 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: upsdriver

Amen.


191 posted on 02/04/2007 2:46:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: miss marmelstein

Rudy has done some cool things. He is still a RINO though.


192 posted on 02/04/2007 2:47:30 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don't agree that marriage is all about procreation. That is demonstrably false. Covering old ground, woman and men enter marriage who know that they can't procreate. Many marry with no intention to procreate. Meanwhile, some gay couples are adopting kids, and make excellent parents. I know you don't like THAT one either.


193 posted on 02/04/2007 2:47:56 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: EternalVigilance

I was responsive that its incidence per your own posts has been declining in Muslim societies.


194 posted on 02/04/2007 2:48:55 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: Torie
Meanwhile, some gay couples are adopting kids, and make excellent parents. I know you don't like THAT one either.

No, I don't. I think it's a blatant form of extreme child abuse.

195 posted on 02/04/2007 2:49:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Very generous. Why did God wire us to sin EV?


196 posted on 02/04/2007 2:50:01 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: Torie
I was responsive that its incidence per your own posts has been declining in Muslim societies.

Yeah. It peaked in Germany in the Twenties, too. Kinda ebbed after that...

197 posted on 02/04/2007 2:50:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

It seems to have declined in Muslim societies prior to the rise of Islamic fundamentalism. Buy hey, if the Hitler analogy works for you, run with it.


198 posted on 02/04/2007 2:52:34 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: Torie
Very generous. Why did God wire us to sin EV?

Uhmmm...because He graciously gave us a free will, and then we sinned, for starters, and then because He wanted to, and He's a lot bigger and stronger than you.

199 posted on 02/04/2007 2:52:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

A Trojan Horse by any other name is still a Trojan Horse.


200 posted on 02/04/2007 2:52:56 PM PST by Basheva
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