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A 'Good Chance' Giuliani Will Run In '08
AP via Yahoo ^ | 02/03/07 | JIM DAVENPORT

Posted on 02/03/2007 1:17:10 PM PST by BunnySlippers

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Rudy is not going to take your guns. Stop being delusional.

He took two away from a Freeper.

And the larger point is, if the Dems are in charge of Congress and pass gun control legislation, his history shows he would sign such.

241 posted on 02/03/2007 3:46:00 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Blackirish
Is that all you got that worn out old phrase? So, was I wrong in saying you are going to support, Hunter. Maybe this'll help.

Hunter Hunter he's the man!
If he can't do it no one can!
Gooooooo, Hunter!

242 posted on 02/03/2007 3:46:51 PM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: BunnySlippers
"Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying… a dead weight of human waste… an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all." - Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood
243 posted on 02/03/2007 3:47:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

A Hitler reference is funny coming from you.


244 posted on 02/03/2007 3:48:16 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Alberta's Child
Would you ever support George Pataki for the GOP nomination?

No.

Here's the thing about Rudy. He's not a RINO in the Lincoln Chafee or Chuck Hagel sense. In a difficult environment hostile to change & entrenched in big government liberalism, Rudy took on the status-quo. He cut taxes, cut welfare rolls, limited city government, etc. To do this in NYC, and to show strong leadership after 9/11 (telling Arafat and the Saudi Prince to go to Hell, something that even Bush never did) is why conservatives are willing to give Rudy a pass on his social liberal past.

245 posted on 02/03/2007 3:48:21 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: Dolphy
"The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order..." - Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

Do you agree with Rudy Giuliani that the work of the person who said the above is "distinguished"?

246 posted on 02/03/2007 3:49:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Dolphy
A Hitler reference is funny coming from you.

Why? Because I shoved you and your friends' support for leftists back in your faces? Hah...

247 posted on 02/03/2007 3:51:05 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: dirtboy
And the larger point is, if the Dems are in charge of Congress and pass gun control legislation, his history shows he would sign such.

And gunowners will just break out the K-Y jelly, right. Such a scenario would never happen, on a national level. Even Dim candidates are running away from gun control. I'm sorry to hear about FReeper Pharmboy, though.

248 posted on 02/03/2007 3:51:21 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden of unwanted children..." - Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

Are the above the words of someone whose "work was 'distinguished'"?

249 posted on 02/03/2007 3:52:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Petronski

The railroad platform at Treblinka, where the Nazi holocaust victims were singled out for death, had flower beds that gave the area a "a neat and cheery look." Today, abortion clinics use plants and bold colors to create a "cheerful and anxiety-free environment."

An inmate orchestra provided tangos, jazz and waltzes as the victims were dispatched to the "shower rooms" of Auschwitz. Soothing music is piped into most waiting rooms and "procedure rooms" of abortion clinics.

According to an Auschwitz survivor, 17,280 corpses were disposed of "per twenty four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night." According to a former abortionist, "From eight in the morning until midnight, seven days a week, doctors working in ten operating rooms performed vacuum aspirations on an endless parade of pregnant wombs." (Vacuum aspiration is a type of abortion.)

An Auschwitz gassing technician stated that, "I had no feelings carrying out these things." One abortionist stated that, "I never had any psychological adverse reaction, except for an occasional feeling that one was destroying life."

http://www.lifedynamics.com/DeathCamps/Holocaust7.cfm#TheTop


250 posted on 02/03/2007 3:55:32 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League, which later became Planned Parenthood, published a magazine called Birth Control Review. Here are some quotes from their magazine. The ideas expressed by this group, along with the statements of Margaret Sanger cited above, promote a scheme that seeks to make race or class the determining factor in the use of birth control and abortion. Was Planned Parenthood's founder a racist who taught that some races or classes are superior, while other races or classes are inherently inferior, or was she just an elitist femi-nazi? The quotes here and above reveal the answer.

"Not only is it our task to prevent the multiplication of bad stocks; it is also to preserve the well-endowed stocks."

"… in the interest of social progress or the permanence even of civilization, the intellectual classes should have more children."

"Our most pressing problem is to increase the birth rate from the superior and decrease that from the inferior."

"The Aryan stock today is the most given to birth control and it must see that it does not suffer internationally by the relative ignorance of inferior stocks."

"… it would also lead to racial improvement to sterilize even those feeble-minded who do not necessarily fall in the hereditary group."

"Womanhood shakes off its bondage. It asserts its right to be free. In its freedom, its thoughts turn to the race. Like begets like. We gather perfect fruit from perfect trees. The race is but the amplification of its mother body - the multiplication of flesh habitations - beautified and perfected for souls akin to the mother soul."

http://www.lifedynamics.com/DeathCamps/Holocaust8.cfm#TheTop


251 posted on 02/03/2007 3:58:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
And gunowners will just break out the K-Y jelly, right. Such a scenario would never happen, on a national level.

Sure, like the 1994 so-called Assault Weapons ban?

Even Dim candidates are running away from gun control.

Oh, they will go back to it in a jiffy if given the chance.

I'm sorry to hear about FReeper Pharmboy, though.

He had permits for handguns in NYC for something like seventeen years until Rudy's administration turned the screws on people for no reason. In other words, even David Dinkins didn't take his guns away, so Rudy is to his left on this particular issue.

Rudy needs to seriously get further right if he wants a unified party if he wins.

252 posted on 02/03/2007 3:58:24 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: EternalVigilance
Is this the point in the thread where we post the profoundly offensive Nazi quotes? Great. Here goes:

"No, I think they, and all Giuliani supporters, should be forced to wear this on their sleeve:

[picture of large GLBT pink triangle]"

--EternalVigilance, 1-29-7

253 posted on 02/03/2007 3:59:08 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Petronski

That looks awful...unless you include my entire post...with the /s tag at the end, and perhaps also a little look at the actions on that thread of your liberal friends that it was sarcastically addressed to.


254 posted on 02/03/2007 4:01:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Petronski

In other words, you're lying and trying to smear me.


255 posted on 02/03/2007 4:02:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Petronski

Do you know the meaning of this tag:

"/s"

?


256 posted on 02/03/2007 4:03:32 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

The suggestion is too sick to be excused by some tag.


257 posted on 02/03/2007 4:03:50 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: EternalVigilance
...you're lying and trying to smear me.

Untrue on both counts.

258 posted on 02/03/2007 4:04:35 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
He's not a RINO in the Lincoln Chafee or Chuck Hagel sense.

In what sense is Chuck Hagel a "RINO?"

In a difficult environment hostile to change & entrenched in big government liberalism, Rudy took on the status-quo. He cut taxes, cut welfare rolls, limited city government, etc. To do this in NYC, and to show strong leadership after 9/11 (telling Arafat and the Saudi Prince to go to Hell, something that even Bush never did) is why conservatives are willing to give Rudy a pass on his social liberal past.

1. New York City government was much bigger the day Rudy Giuliani left office than it had been on the day he entered office.

2. Rudy Giuliani adamantly opposed the 1996 Federal welfare reform legislation -- even to the point of filing suit in Federal court to have it overturned. This basically put him -- bizarre though it may seem - to the LEFT of Bill Clinton on this issue.

3. It didn't take any political courage to have Yassir Arafat escorted out of Lincoln Center, and to tell a Saudi prince to shove his $10 million up his @ss when New York City was already set to receive several billion in Federal assistance after 9/11.

259 posted on 02/03/2007 4:04:43 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Oddly enough, it sounds like Rudy Giuliani has taken some of Sanger's statements to heart.


260 posted on 02/03/2007 4:05:44 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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