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Perry orders anti-cancer vaccine for schoolgirls
Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | Feb. 2, 2007 | LIZ AUSTIN PETERSON

Posted on 02/02/2007 1:28:44 PM PST by YCTHouston

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To: metmom

Your allergist/immunologist gave you an incorrect/incomplete data. There are different types of vaccines. Ask him/her which type the 80% applies to.


561 posted on 02/04/2007 5:31:28 AM PST by DalcoTX
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To: metmom
Um... when Merck put Gardesil on the market, several "pro-family" groups opposed its sale because it was thought it might encourage promiscuity.
562 posted on 02/04/2007 5:34:23 AM PST by DalcoTX
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To: BykrBayb
I’m probably going to be called a conspiracy theorist over this one. So IMHU. . .

The chicken pox Vaccine is/was advocated under the guise of scars, time lost from school, etc. When a child has the CP he/she is incredibly contagious and the parent HAS to take time from work. There are no two ways about it. We wouldn’t want time taken from work, now would we.
563 posted on 02/04/2007 6:06:48 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: BykrBayb

Nobody. But I guess you just can't trust parents judgement because they're not *trained* medical porfessionals. ( Kind of like paretns aren't capable of educating their own children because theeeey're not trianed educators)

Oatmeal baths worked wonders. I stuck some oatmeal in an old stocking and threw it in the warm, NOT HOT, bathwater and it worked wonders. And the kids loved it.


564 posted on 02/04/2007 6:11:30 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Too early to FReep. Try again.....

(Kind of like parents aren't capable of educating their own children because they're not trained educators)


565 posted on 02/04/2007 6:13:17 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DalcoTX

Merck, the producer of Vioxx.


566 posted on 02/04/2007 6:14:13 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: YCTHouston

"However, the biggest problem I have is that Perry did this by exuctive order, entirely bypassing the Legislature and any deliberative debate or citizen input."

Remember what Lanny Davis said?

"Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Pretty cool."

At least the Clinton's overall political philosophy lined up with this type of action. Conservatives are supposed to be against this type of thing. Problem is, most of the conservatives in politics these days are actually big-gov't liberals.


567 posted on 02/04/2007 7:03:02 AM PST by webstersII
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To: freemike
Where would we ever be without the ever loving watchful eye and caring hand of our friendly state officials? They know so much more than we. They are so much smarter, wiser, caring...

And the scary part?
That's not satire. They believe it.

Just keep watchin' our taxes go up...

568 posted on 02/04/2007 7:36:02 AM PST by XR7
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To: bigred41

I agree with you sentiment, however. I would part ways with you on making it "mandatory." Make it available, publicize it, advertise it, give people a chance to talk to their physicians about it and make a decision as a parent. But, make it mandatory? Hmmm. That's my objection, to the "mandatory" nature of it. IF it's a lifesaver, publicize it and claim it as such, so others can challenge the data if need be. Make it available and let the parenets decide, not the governor.


569 posted on 02/04/2007 7:38:26 AM PST by austinaero
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To: Alter Kaker

"How you raise your daughter has no impact whatsoever on whether her husband, on her wedding day, infects her with HPV."

Your level of concern for others is amazing but shouldn't that be their business instead of yours?

I mean, after all, if they are both concerned about this, then all they have to do is to have this vaccine themselves and that solves their problem, right? Why does the whole population have to have it?

After all, as conservatives, shouldn't we be after the solution which maximizes effectiveness along with personal responsibility?


570 posted on 02/04/2007 7:41:47 AM PST by webstersII
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To: lqclamar

I agree it's lame what he's setup but you can't claim that it isn't 100% voluntary.

Even if you have to fill out an affadavit you can.. and if you can list religious or other reasons then they can't deny you.

Therefore you can't get out of it with 100% certainty.


571 posted on 02/04/2007 8:13:27 AM PST by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy
Even if you have to fill out an affadavit you can.. and if you can list religious or other reasons then they can't deny you.

While better than nothing, I still find that option unacceptable. No matter how it is construed it still places the burden to opt out ENTIRELY on the parent. Parents should not have to go begging to the government simply to exercise a basic right about the upbringing of their children.

572 posted on 02/04/2007 8:56:45 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: doc30
And out of 10 million girls, 8 million WILL get HPV.

Hey doc. Any chance we could get a source for your outrageously high 80% infection rate stat? I'm no MD, but I do happen to be a statistician and would like the opportunity to examine the scientific validity of the unsourced HPV infection rate statistics that are being tossed out by people like you on this thread.

Specifically, where did they take that sample from? When did they take it? How was the diagnosis made? Was it representative of the general U.S. population? How many participated? What percentage of respondents were sexually active outside of wedlock? I look forward to your response.

573 posted on 02/04/2007 9:05:18 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: doc30; YCTHouston
This group of virus infects 80% of the female population.

Source please. If you're going to throw out statistics that are inevitably obtained by some sort of sampling technique you need to be able to back it up with a source and provide transparency on the methodology used. That way those of us who are professionals at that sort of thing can verify if you understand what you are talking about.

574 posted on 02/04/2007 9:09:13 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: Alter Kaker
Really? So I take it you're morally opposed to mandatory use of the polio vaccine in affected areas?

The polio pathogen is airborne. You can only get HPV via banging. Big difference.

575 posted on 02/04/2007 9:51:59 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: webstersII

Thank you! We can't protect our children from every future possibility..they could get into a car accident if they drive, they could be robbed, they could be raped, their future spouses could be jerks, etc etc etc... it is up to us to equip them as children with the knowledge and skills to help them be as safe as possible..but we can't just bow down to whatever the government tells us is good for them because of what might happen later on.. these things have to be our decision..we cannot allow any more of our parental rights to be usurped by those who claim to know what's best for our children.


576 posted on 02/04/2007 11:36:45 AM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: doc30

You have to be really careful believing every government statistic you read my friend.. 1 in 10 are supposed to be homosexual.. 1 in 4 girls were supposedly molested by family members... I suppose you believe that too?


577 posted on 02/04/2007 11:38:17 AM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: I got the rope

"Once a 'rat...always a 'rat IMHO"


In Perry's case this may be true.. but I was once a hard core "rat", who turned her life around and now my views make Rush Limbaugh look like a socialist.. people can change, however most politicians aren't "people"...hehe


578 posted on 02/04/2007 11:45:23 AM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: bigred41

God bless you honey....


579 posted on 02/04/2007 11:46:52 AM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Alter Kaker

I put my daughter's life in the hands of God.. you are putting your trust in the advertising of a profiteering drug company.. why do you believe everything they tell you about this vaccine? If my daughter chose to get this vaccine when she was 18, it's up to her. Until then, it's up to me to research all the FACTS and make the decision for her.


580 posted on 02/04/2007 11:51:06 AM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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