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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; William Terrell; gcruse
a dubiously legitimate point of case law.

But they came to the correct conclusion using the entire letter and proper context.

"Earlier courts long understood Jefferson’s intent. In fact, when Jefferson’s letter was invoked by the Supreme Court (only twice prior to the 1947 Everson case-the Reynolds v. United States case in 1878), unlike today’s Courts which publish only his eight-word separation phrase, that earlier Court published Jefferson’s entire letter and then concluded:

Coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it [Jefferson’s letter] may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the Amendment thus secured. Congress was deprived of all legislative power over mere [religious] opinion, but was left free to reach actions which were in violation of social duties or subversive of good order. (emphasis added) 12

That Court then succinctly summarized Jefferson’s intent for “separation of church and state”:

[T]he rightful purposes of civil government are for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order. In th[is] . . . is found the true distinction between what properly belongs to the church and what to the State. 13

With this even the Baptists had agreed; for while wanting to see the government prohibited from interfering with or limiting religious activities, they also had declared it a legitimate function of government “to punish the man who works ill to his neighbor.”

That Court, therefore, and others (for example, Commonwealth v. Nesbit and Lindenmuller v. The People ), identified actions into which-if perpetrated in the name of religion-the government did have legitimate reason to intrude. Those activities included human sacrifice, polygamy, bigamy, concubinage, incest, infanticide, parricide, advocation and promotion of immorality, etc.

Such acts, even if perpetrated in the name of religion, would be stopped by the government since, as the Court had explained, they were “subversive of good order” and were “overt acts against peace.” However, the government was never to interfere with traditional religious practices outlined in “the Books of the Law and the Gospel”-whether public prayer, the use of the Scriptures, public acknowledgements of God, etc.

Therefore, if Jefferson’s letter is to be used today, let its context be clearly given-as in previous years. Furthermore, earlier Courts had always viewed Jefferson’s Danbury letter for just what it was: a personal, private letter to a specific group. There is probably no other instance in America’s history where words spoken by a single individual in a private letter-words clearly divorced from their context-have become the sole authorization for a national policy. Finally, Jefferson’s Danbury letter should never be invoked as a stand-alone document. A proper analysis of Jefferson’s views must include his numerous other statements on the First Amendment."

12. Reynolds v. U. S., 98 U. S. 145, 164 (1878).

13. Reynolds at 163.

Wallbuilders
11 posted on 02/02/2007 4:06:35 AM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok
"Finally, Jefferson’s Danbury letter should never be invoked as a stand-alone document."

Whatever happened?

This case is also central to the marriage issue. The Court did declare the legal restrictions for the religious rite of marriage was solely a statutory function in the secular law.

Marriage is not a civil right, it is a privileged religious rite and requires a license to be recognized by the state and federal government.

Since all adults have equal privilege to marry one consenting adult of opposite gender, 14th Amendment arguments concerning "equal privileges and immunities" do not apply to homosexual monogamists.

13 posted on 02/02/2007 6:04:47 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: loboinok
Far as I'm concerned, the court might have just as well used a Donald Duck comic book.

14 posted on 02/02/2007 7:33:35 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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