To: La Enchiladita
I actually agree with a lot of your post. I am not a border patrol basher in the slightest. In fact, I think it is one of the most difficult jobs in the country.
What I do not believe is that having a heroic job, whether it is a soldier, a border patrol agent, a policeman or a fireman gives you a free pass for not doing the right and lawful thing. And that goes for prosecutors as well.
In this case, I waited until a trial was held. At this point, it looks fair to me. I may change my mind at a later date. I feel the same way about military men who tarnish the reputation of our armed forces, and Americans who put us to shame because they don't do the right thing.
I believe the border is a problem and needs to be cleaned up. I am also strongly aware that perception is a very powerful tool that is used to stir people up in ways that can do more harm than good in actually solving the problem. I believe hearsay and rumor is not a good substitute for facts and analysis.
Therefore, I tend to approach this stuff with caution, don't wholly believe much of what I read from a single source, try not to demonize the President over things he does not control, and let the system do what it was designed to do.
Funny thing is, I always believed that approach was conservative. I have been confused lately...especially by folks who say it doesn't matter if these guys lied or covered up as one did on another thread on this topic. I'm sorry, but character still matters. Even when it is on our team.
I hope that clears things up, La Enchiladita. I really think we're on the same team.
To: pollyannaish
I really think we're on the same team. I don't and we're not. The degree of contempt and the derisive language you use regarding our BP agents in many of your posts is a giveaway. You can't have it both ways. You can't support the troops and be "ashamed" of them. I am ashamed of none, because there is no reason to be. I am on the side of the U.S.
72 posted on
02/01/2007 10:32:23 PM PST by
La Enchiladita
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To: pollyannaish
Your words:
I am not a border patrol basher in the slightest. Your words: BTW, the information about Ramos being Agent of the Year is wrong. He wasn't, and while his problems with domestic violence are not apropos to this case, it does go to show he wasn't the lily white saint his supporters are making him out to be. Which may not have anything to do with his guilt, but should temper the urge of his supporters to overstate and overreach regarding this case.
It looks to me like you're overreaching to smear someone you do not know... One wonders why.
73 posted on
02/01/2007 10:37:58 PM PST by
La Enchiladita
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