Whose Side Is Bush On?

Constitution Party ^ | 1/31/07 | Chuck Baldwin

[tfelice]

There was someone in the gallery during President George W. Bush’s State of the Union speech that he would not dare publicly recognize. Even though he knew she was there, I’m confident he never even bothered to look up at Gallery 5, Row B, Seat 9, because sitting in that seat was Monica Ramos, the wife of imprisoned former Border Patrol agent Ignacio Ramos. She was the invited guest of Republican California Congressman Dana Rohrabacher.

[loboinok]

Filing a false report and trying to cover their tracks.

I have read several accounts that state a failure to file a report but not one that claims a "false report".

Where did you find that?

As for covering their tracks... several agents responded and their Supervisor was aware of what happened. Who were they attempting to hide it from?

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Despite its warts, the GOP remains head and shoulders above the Constitution Party.

[loboinok]

[Obie Wan]

If your talking about electability your right. If your talking about conservative fundamentals,sorry we disagree. The GOP that I've supported in the past is a bad mirror image of the GOP that really stood for conservative values in the past. If the best and brightest the GOP can offer today are John McCain or Rudy Giuliani then I guess my views are closer to the Constitution Party then the GOP !!!

[baubau]

"Whose Side Is Bush On?

The illegal alien invaders?

Just a guess.

[Liberty Wins]

Filing a false report and trying to cover their tracks?

We're all overlooking something here. Why did they feel they had to cover up their actions? Since when are border agents not supposed to use their guns against drug dealers sneaking in this country to ruin our youth? Sounds like the Bush border policy is in a sorry mess.

These guys need to be sent on a national speaking tour to expose what is going on in Immigration. Maybe even Bush doesn't know how bad it is.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I would suggest everybody on this thread who is speculating about the facts of this case take the time to read the large number of threads already posted on the subject, because there is a LOT of incorrect statements here, not about opinion but about the facts that are indisputable in the case.

[pollyannaish]

You don't file a false report period. That is the cowards way out. Even if you believe you will take political heat, you tell the truth.

When exactly did character cease to matter with conservatives?

[woofie]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777780/posts

[Obie Wan]

I not sure. Why don't you ask George Bush since he's been flushing our immigration laws down the toilet for years now !!!

[OldFriend]

The spinning has hurt the cause and this has turned into another Bush's fault rant.

Pathetic.

[pollyannaish]

With all due respect, the President is not on trial here. These men went to trial and were convicted for not doing the right thing.

You can explore the pros and cons of pardoning these men, which is what the President is doing...but his character has nothing to do with the actions of the agents. They are responsible for their own deeds. Period. Bush didn't make them do it. The law didn't make them do it. THEY did it. A pardon simply acknowledges that they broke the law, but we're going to forgive them because of extenuating circumstances. It absolves them from consequences, not blame.

I constantly see folks posting about "not walking lock-step" and "thinking for ourselves" on this forum...and yet this entire episode is so rife with group-think and hysteria that it is, frankly, embarrassing.

[pollyannaish]

I have a feeling that blaming the President might just have been the goal all along. It was simply a convenient vehicle.

[Obie Wan]

No it's not pathetic,it's what's going on. We who post on Free Republic have got to always agree with George Bush and the Republicans or we're spinning.When we bring in a Mexican drug dealer to testify against two of our border agents some of us see something beyond the norm that's happening. There's two guy's doing 12 years in prison for doing their jobs and if my rant brings George Bush into the situation and some people here don't like it T.S. (tough situation) !!!

[woofie]

for good news

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777780/posts

[neverhillorat]

Why, if the charges of the jury being pressured, are these two agents pushing so hard for a pardon instead of an appeal?

[pollyannaish]

There is no question in my mind that when it comes to illegal immigration and President Bush, no good deed goes unpunished.

It's actually hurting the cause. Thanks for the good news. :-)

[Obie Wan]

His character has everything to do with it. GROW UP! When the President of the United States makes a political statement,be it some sellout amnesty program or calling a group of concerned citizens like the Minutemen a vigilante group there's a statement loud and clear being sent. Maybe You think the world of politics is a Norman Rockwell painting but I don't and I disagree that questioning this whole situation is hysteria.As for your embarrasment I could care less !!!

[pissant]

They are pushing for both. As I would if I were in their shoes. These guys are guilty of breaking the rules. The prosecutor/judge are asswipes for going for such stern sentences.

[thiscouldbemoreconfusing]

The Constitution party is looking better and better, to me, every day.