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Vista DRM Cracked Already?
Windows IT PRo Magazine ^ | 1/31/07 | Mark Joseph Edwards

Posted on 02/01/2007 6:21:11 PM PST by Space Wrangler

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To: Thumper1960

WINE is a viable option for most programs. WINE stands for WINdows Emulator, and will run most popular Windows programs in Linux. As the popularity for Linux continues to grow, that will become less and less of a concern though.


81 posted on 02/02/2007 6:21:21 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: antiRepublicrat
First, you can't show a lie in their defense.

LMAO, you already admitted quote "Yes, I lied" when you attempted to claim the US DoD was extensively using software by Russian hackers, in defense of the Russian hackers that cracked OSX to run on cheap PC's. Which by the way seems to be pretty much the extent of your experience with OSX, since you don't seem to have a modern Mac yourself. It only took you months before you admitted the lies, which you claim was some sort of trick even though your hacker buddies failed them as well, but something tells me you're about to destroy another thread with your endless denials and further defense of foreign hackers LOL.

Second, that rule would kick in if he were to start distributing Vista.

I've already shown where criminal charges can be brought if only the hacks are distributed and not the hacked software itself. Once again you show no principle or honesty and put your continued failed defense of foreign hackers above all else.

82 posted on 02/02/2007 6:27:04 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Space Wrangler
Thank you for that information.

As the years go by, I'm less and less enamored with MS, and Gates' stranglehold on the computing options for the unwashed masses. I hate spending money on things that seem not to be improvements. I want to retain control of my computer.

83 posted on 02/02/2007 6:28:28 AM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Space Wrangler

So what does the winner get these days, in the race to be the first to crack any new platform?


84 posted on 02/02/2007 6:33:28 AM PST by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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To: savedbygrace
you're arguing with the use of the False Choice logical fallacy.

Siding with US companies that want to protect their intellectual property over foreign hackers that want to crack it is a "false choice logical fallacy"? Please explain.

85 posted on 02/02/2007 6:34:47 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
I was playing with a beta of Vista on my laptop (it was a little under powered) and tried to play a piece of music that the OS simply refused to play because of DRM....

I had written it on a Yamaha Motif ES8 and recorded it on an XP machine with Cakewalk 9 and Sony Soundforge.

According to Vista's DRM, I didn't have permission to PLAY MY OWN MUSIC.

86 posted on 02/02/2007 6:37:25 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Golden Eagle

Google the term, study it, and then come back if you're still confused about it.


87 posted on 02/02/2007 6:39:11 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Golden Eagle; Space Wrangler
take a stand either on the side of foreign hackers or US corporations

That's a false dilemma. I take a stand on the side of the consumers, who are having their fair use rights stripped. The corporations have forgotten that copyright is supposed to be a balance of rights between the copyright holder and the people.

88 posted on 02/02/2007 6:41:42 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: FreedomGuru

We ran a testbed of IE7 at work and I decided it was so incredibly bad I would never install it. I was pretty pissed when I recently rebuilt my gaming machine and had Windows Update try and install it. It should be optional software.


89 posted on 02/02/2007 6:42:43 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Golden Eagle
LMAO, you already admitted quote "Yes, I lied"

To test you, not to defend hackers. Thanks for playing, you can quit your libel now.

I've already shown where criminal charges can be brought if only the hacks are distributed and not the hacked software itself.

True, but you never found the profit condition necessary for criminality in their actions under the DMCA. The way they can be nailed without any profit is under the NET Act, which is where the $1K/180day rule kicks in for actually distributing the copyrighted work. You've been told this. I'm not going to feed the troll by going around in circles on this again.

90 posted on 02/02/2007 6:49:23 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Space Wrangler
the 'illegal' option can be morally justified...Perhaps the pressure from the 'foreign hackers' will force the content providers into a more realistic business model, and one that is fair to the consumer.

Well you're clearly choosing a side whether you realize it or not. I believe in property ownership myself, and the right of the property owner to set prices of sale, and that the capitalistic market to ensure those prices are fair, not illegal activity. Illegal activity typically causes prices to go up, as more severe controls are required and implemented. Thinking that DRM controls will go down due to theft is the same as thinking a fence that is being jumped for illegal entry will be taken down, rather than a better fence going up in its place.

91 posted on 02/02/2007 6:52:29 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: savedbygrace

If you're going to defend illegal hacking by foreigners over protecting the property of US corporations, the burden of explanation is clearly on you.


92 posted on 02/02/2007 6:56:18 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

If you don't understand the terms and rules of debate, you probably shouldn't be debating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_choice


93 posted on 02/02/2007 7:01:58 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I was pretty pissed when I recently rebuilt my gaming machine and had Windows Update try and install it. It should be optional software.

It is optional, the operator is the one who ok's or not to download and INSTALL any Windows update file. You failed to check off the IE7 download.
94 posted on 02/02/2007 7:10:05 AM PST by FreedomGuru
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To: FreedomGuru

My bad for not getting my point across: my point was that it should be listed under "Software, Optional" sub-list of Windows Update without being pre-selected by WU.


95 posted on 02/02/2007 7:15:13 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: antiRepublicrat
not to defend hackers.

LOL yeah right, you're defending them with more twisted BS again right here like usual.

96 posted on 02/02/2007 7:21:24 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Space Wrangler

Cracking Vista is a good thing. There are enough corporations to support Micrsoft's profits. For the rest of us, it should be free.


97 posted on 02/02/2007 7:25:48 AM PST by montag813
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To: Space Wrangler

Vista has NOTHING that XP lacks, except cosmetic bullshit. Plus it has so many Big Brother aspects, that there is no way I will ever switch from XP.


98 posted on 02/02/2007 7:26:44 AM PST by montag813
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To: Psycho_Bunny
my point was that it should be listed under "Software, Optional" sub-list of Windows Update without being pre-selected by WU.

I agree with you on that.
Sorry you had problems with IE7, it runs great here, I've got multiple tabs open with no problems.
99 posted on 02/02/2007 7:35:02 AM PST by FreedomGuru
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To: Space Wrangler
If I might pick a nit, WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator. It provides the Windows API's. It doesn't emulate the CPU.
100 posted on 02/02/2007 7:36:49 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (Islam delenda est)
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