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To: RetiredArmy

"Play all the games you want too with words friend. I don't care. I don't vote for liberals, Rudy, Hillary or you. I don't care. I will vote for a conservative. Even if it is a person from another party. I am not married to the GOP."

Thank you..... No one here is running off to vote for a Liberal. We vote Conservative. Everyone on this forum, and I am being pretty Conservative in my estimate will vote for a Conservative over Rudy or McCain. Not the point.

Conservatives are Republicans but Republicans aren't necessarily Conservative. That's what killed us this election, the Chafee's of the party.

What many on this forum are concerned with, me included is what happens if a moderate Republican wins the nomination. A Rudy or a McCain. What do we as Conservatives do then?
I contend that I will vote for Rudy in that case. I will not stay home and play into the RATS game of splitting the Republicans. It's something that many on this forum, you and I included will have to come to grips with because it is a good possibility.


352 posted on 02/01/2007 6:40:57 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; RetiredArmy
Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.

379 posted on 02/01/2007 7:00:56 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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