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To: calcowgirl
Poe has a reasonable request, if he's afraid he might leak classified information he should ask for a redacted version. He probably should have specified that when he first sent the request, although I imagine most of the congresspeople want to see the full version anyway.

Poe, who was previously both a Texas prosecutor and judge, commented, "As defense attorney you should never stipulate anything."

The defense stipulates anything that would be easily provable, and for which it would damage the defendant to have it proven in court. In fact, often the prosecution won't ask for stipulation because presenting evidence of something makes it more powerful.

The best known local case of this was the Marion Barry trial for cocaine possession and use. The defense stipulated that the substance in the room was cocaine. No reason not to, the cocaine was provided by the state to the informant in the sting, and the lab tests were conclusive and indisputable. The prosecution, seeing a chance to save some time, agreed.

The jury found Barry not guilty on the charge of cocaine possession, because several jurors convinced the rest that the powder in the video looked like sugar, not cocaine, and that if it was cocaine they would have presented evidence of it.

That may be happening in this case -- by stipulating, Sutton might not have presented the evidence, so the testimony won't show the ballistics report. Now Ramos and his team can argue that the testimony doesn't prove it, blame his lawyer, and plant seeds of doubt.

My earlier point was that there is nothing in this article that wasn't in an article a week ago. We've already discussed it, and it seems WND is simply republishing the same speculation again and again to drive up hit counts and make it look like there is more questions being raised every day, when it's just the same tired allegations repeated by the same second and third-hand sources. Ramirez and Bonner are favorites, although neither of them had anything to do with the case, and can only repeat what they heard from other people or read in selectively leaked documents and published accounts.

19 posted on 02/01/2007 10:54:17 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Poe has a reasonable request, if he's afraid he might leak classified information ...

Why is any of this information classified? We are talking about 2 employees of the federal government and a lowlife alien drug-smuggler, Aldrete-Davila. This doesn't involve national security... all of the information should be made public.

The continued secrecy and shrouding of evidence by DHS and the US Attorney are what is fueling the distrust, not just in this case but of our entire judicial system. What do they have to hide?

If it was all on the up and up, release the transcripts. Release the reports. Unseal all court documents. Put it all online for the world to see.

22 posted on 02/01/2007 11:07:18 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I'll bet all this is true. I've seen prosecutors with warped agendas and Johnny Sutton is one of them. These accusations have the ring of truth and make Sutton's entire case suspect. Open borders policies are corrupt and un-American. And Johnny Sutton has made himself the darling of the OBL


105 posted on 02/03/2007 6:43:25 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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