[fireforeffect]

Check.

The question is: How DO you tell if someone is who and what they say they are?

They look like a Mexican? (But their family has lived here for 200 years)

They look like an Arab? (But is an Armenian or a Lebanese Christian and have been here for 3 generations)

They look like a ex-con? (But are just your average clueless teenager)

They look like a foreigner? (But are really from New York City or southern California, no really)

Some form of ID is needed to prove you are who you say you are in this day and age. National standards avoid confusion.

Everybody complains about illegal aliens and voter fraud. Then when the Republicans do something about it they complain about intrusiveness and big brother.

I do not want a national ID card. But I also do not want illegal aliens (Terrorist or slave laborers) to move about freely, convicted felons to vote, or democrats to vote more than once.

[TheKidster]

But I also do not want illegal aliens (Terrorist or slave laborers) to move about freely, convicted felons to vote, or democrats to vote more than once.

A national ID will not do much to address any of those problems. The only thing it does at the end of the day is benefit the fed govt by allowing it to consolidate more power and increase the level of control it can exert upon the states.

[VeniVidiVici]

Then when the Republicans do something about it they complain about intrusiveness and big brother.

Amen. Have you ever seen any alternatives? I do believe we need to effectively police the border but beyond that?

If I remember correctly the 9/11 hijackers had entered the country legally. With RealID would 9/11 have still happened?