Posted on 02/01/2007 5:48:02 AM PST by driftdiver
It doesn't matter, per se, what my idea of morality is. My body could soon be under a tulip, and morality won't change. And it's usually the unruly ones who are the first to point to standards they won't live under, and if that's your nature, so be it.
I am not one of your "flock" nor do I care to be.
True, lost little lambs on the loose tend to thumb their noses at any attempts of shepherding.
Your hatred is irrational [the poster stated irrationally]
dangerous to liberty
One person's "liberty" is oft in reality "licensiousness"
I ask again, how soon before there are calls to ban alcohol, condoms, birth control pills, and R-rated moves?
Now that you've passed Basic Religious Zealotry, try again.
--If an Internet user types the word “gay” into the search engine for Wal-Mart’s online bookstore, more than 1,000 titles turn up --
One of those evil 'gay' books that comes up ....
John Gay: Selected Poems
I can't believe that there is so much concern over selling books about homosexuals. Obviously they sell millions of books and perhaps sell books to 100 percent of America. Well if two percent are homosexual why shouldn't Walmart be able to sell them. Conservatives are becoming less and less captialists and that is sad. I guess you want them to go to Amazon.com? I don't understand what the problem is.
Another one of those evil gay books ...
The Sweet Potato Queens' Field Guide to Men: Every Man I Love Is Either Married, Gay, or Dead
You didn't write to me but I think that it would be different if they were selling these books in the store but they are not. They are selling them online. I would not want to walk into a store and perhaps see these books but for a person to order on line and have them show up at the home I don't see that as bad.
My guideline is rather a New Testament one: Test everything. Hold onto the good. (Paul's letter to the Thessalonians). And Paul's letter to the Ephesians includes this line: "Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them...everything exposed by the light becomes visible, for it is light that makes everything visible."
Folks don't have true awareness until the light is turned on and visibility exposes it.
We all have faults...
If somebody is trying to profit off of those "faults"--whether it be a Janet Jackson "oops" at a halftime show aired in front of millions of minors--or the flim-flam man's "faults" of exploiting others in order to turn a buck--then it's now a public domain issue.
don't choose to search for bad things
Okay, if as you walked in to your local Wal-mart store, you saw a New Age shop next to the optometry division, an occult shop next to the pharmacy, a gay & lesbian store next to the photo shop, I don't think we'd have disagreement over assessing this issue.
A company's web presence and what they hawk there not much different than what they pitch to the local customer.
"And it's usually the unruly ones who are the first to point to standards they won't live under,"
"Unruly". I like that. When folks like you make the rules, being "unruly" is a duty to liberty.
"True, lost little lambs on the loose tend to thumb their noses at any attempts of shepherding."
I'm not lost nor am I a lamb.
"One person's "liberty" is oft in reality "licensiousness""
You call it whatever you want. Tyrants always do.
"A company's web presence and what they hawk there not much different than what they pitch to the local customer."
Walmart has over half a million books on their web site. They carry about .1% of that in their stores.
If you'll take note of all of the examples I gave, I included S&M titles...which last time I checked, weren't in & of themselves illegal. (And for that matter, Web sites carrying "how to make bomb" articles & resources usually aren't raided by the feds, either).
So what do you do? You come back w/some straw man argument where you now attempt to clarify that you were only objecting to those objecting to the sale of "legal" items. Well, I mentioned "legal" items in my response.
Other than that, nice duck. Basically, I didn't comment on anything you said other than the following, so stick to defending this sentence (versus expanding the subject) before moving on: Does it not strike anyone as very 'Talibanish' to ban books that one doesn't agree with on moral grounds?
You are citing, in practically absolute fashion, that anyone taking a book off the shelf on the basis of "moral grounds" is a "Talibanish" act. Is that what you really believe?
Your ignorance is showing. Just search the Wal-mart Web site for gay and lesbian books aimed at minors, and you'll find 'em. [What, you think minors don't actively look for these things & only accidentally stumble upon them?]
"By offering book selections that cater to the gay and lesbian crowd..."
So, as long as Walmart has 1 book for sale about gays that wasn't written by a frothing bible thumper, they are "supporting" the "gay agenda"?
If they offer a history of Islam, are they supporting Osama, too?
Honestly, folks, this article is paranoia, not rational thought.
Reduce things all you want...I've already said that when I'm dead & gone, along w/any other camp you want to include as being part of "folks like you"...morality won't change...folks can sear their conscience all they want, but a person's conscience will still at times offer a still, small voice. I guess then you can blame me for that, too, eh?
tyrants like you
Are you always this winsome? Tossing out judgments that other folks are "hateful" and tyrannical? Can we all know what basic philosophy or basic spiritual teaching you follow so we can sign up and be as charismatically magnetic as you are?
> You are citing, in practically absolute fashion, that
> anyone taking a book off the shelf on the basis of "moral
> grounds" is a "Talibanish" act. Is that what you really
> believe?
Yes. I thought (or at least hoped) that it was well understood among those whose knuckles don't drag on the ground that the solution to wrong-headed, incorrect or fallacious speech was correct speech; **truth**, not forcible silence.
No Sir or Ma'am, YOUR ignorance is showing. The point is that people look for books of interest to them. I am a lousy gardener and have no interest in the subject so I tend to ignore books on the topic. I am a married heterosexual so when I see any book of interest to homosexuals I ignore them also.
I think the difference here is that you buy into the whole concept that there is a massive (horse crap) plot by homosexuals to "convert" otherwise straight kids and turn them gay (yup...I believe gays are born that way).
I know the point you are making, & marketing-wise (in terms of what's prominent vs. what's not), you're correct. But essentially, you're trying to tell me that if Wal-Mart had a book-section only basement that wasn't played up in any significant way, & was much less accessed by the general public, that's okay.
I mean, what's the difference between Wal-mart stocking these books in some warehouse or a basement?
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,100,000 for gay / baptist press.
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