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To: Caesar Soze
Perhaps you are confusing "training" with "Hollywood conditioning?"

OK, I'll cop to that. Hollywood conditioning it is. Nevertheless, these devices were designed to play into what the public is looking for in a bomb. That is what makes them an effective advertising device.

If you pull such stunts, the state is going to be very, very angry with you. As well they should be.

80 posted on 02/01/2007 5:00:42 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: bondjamesbond

Looks like you did, semi-concurrently to my post.


85 posted on 02/01/2007 5:02:03 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: bondjamesbond
Nevertheless, these devices were designed to play into what the public is looking for in a bomb. That is what makes them an effective advertising device.

I'd be very surprised if the public was "supposed to think these objects were bombs". I think they were just supposed to be visual non-sequiturs. ("Why, oh why is there a little cartoon character flipping me off?")

If anything, people familiar with the show would be guilty of NOT seeing the bomblike resemblence because they were too focused on the cartoon character. Given the shows relatively low-profile cult status, I'm sure they weren't allocated much of the TW budget and therefore produced these on the cheap, which left wires and battery pack exposed.
93 posted on 02/01/2007 5:06:40 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: bondjamesbond
OK, I'll cop to that. Hollywood conditioning it is. Nevertheless, these devices were designed to play into what the public is looking for in a bomb. That is what makes them an effective advertising device.

I have to disagree with you on that position, too. Besides IED briefings, I've also seen lots of bombs in Hollywood movies, and I think I know what the average, reasonable person's idea of a bomb looks like. Even if we move past the idea of the LED timer that beeps every second, there has to be some kind of mass to an explosive device. Everyone knows what a pipe bomb looks like. Lots of people have seen more sophisticated and dangerous bombs portrayed in movies -- dramatizations of the WTC and OKC bombs, or similar bombs in the X-Files movie, Fight Club, or Sleeper Cell. All of the above have a great deal more mass than the ATHF devices.

I think a reasonable person might be curious, even cautious, about these devices -- even so far as to ask an authority to investigate it. But it should've ended there. I think the bomb squad that detonated the first device did so purely out of boredom, looking for an excuse to put their training into use and blow something up.

Also, from the footage I've seen, these signs are most visible -- and most effective -- seen at night. In the dark, the illuminated character is visible, and the "frightening" bits and pieces are not. The creator did not intend the devices' bomb-like nature (which I still contest) to be effective, but the appearance of an illuminated character in the dark.

104 posted on 02/01/2007 5:20:40 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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