[goldstategop]

The ill-fated Phaeton did Bernd Pietschrieder in as VW Chairman. It turned out people were not willing to pay a king's ransom for a luxury marque from what is after all the people's car. VW has gone back to its bread and butter cheap and dependable cars. The engines just last and last and last. Whatever else one can say about VW, they make great engines.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[cmsgop]

I got to sit and start a W-12 Phaeton, Really Nice car, but no way would I spend $90,000 for one. If I was in that market I would get a used S-500 or 600 Mercedes or a 750 BMW.