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California may ban conventional lightbulbs by 2012
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 1/30/07 | Bernie Woodall

Posted on 01/30/2007 6:54:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California lawmaker wants to make his state the first to ban incandescent lightbulbs as part of California's groundbreaking initiatives to reduce energy use and greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.

The "How Many Legislators Does it Take to Change a Lightbulb Act" would ban incandescent lightbulbs by 2012 in favor of energy-saving compact fluorescent lightbulbs.

"Incandescent lightbulbs were first developed almost 125 years ago, and since that time they have undergone no major modifications," California Assemblyman Lloyd Levine said on Tuesday.

"Meanwhile, they remain incredibly inefficient, converting only about 5 percent of the energy they receive into light."

Levine is expected to introduce the legislation this week, his office said.

If passed, it would be another pioneering environmental effort in California, the most populous U.S. state. It became the first state to mandate cuts in greenhouse gas emissions, targeting a 25 percent reduction in emissions by 2020.

Compact fluorescent lightbulbs (CFLs) use about 25 percent of the energy of conventional lightbulbs.

Many CFLs have a spiral shape, which was introduced in 1980. By 2005, about 100 million CFLs were sold in the United States, or about 5 percent of the 2-billion-lightbulb market, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

That number could more than double this year. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. alone wants to sell 100 million CFLs at its stores by the end of 2007, the world's biggest retailer said in November.

While it will not give opinion on the possible California law, the EPA recommends CFLs.

"They save money and energy," EPA spokeswoman Enesta Jones said. "They are more convenient than other alternatives and come in different sizes and shapes to fit almost any fixture."

Also, CFLs generate 70 percent less heat than incandescent lights, Jones said.

About a fifth of the average U.S. home's electricity costs pays for lighting, which means even if CFLs initially cost more than conventional lightbulbs, consumers will save, Jones said.

A 20-watt CFL gives as much light as a 75-watt conventional bulb, and lasts 13 times longer, according to the Rocky Mountain Institute, a nonprofit group studying energy issues.

Southern California Edison, an Edison International subsidiary and one of the state's biggest utilities, runs a program that cuts the cost of a CFL by $1 to $2.50. In the past year, SCE has helped consumers buy 6 million CFLs, it said.

California Energy Commission member Arthur Rosenfeld said an average home in California will save $40 to $50 per year if CFLs replace all incandescent bulbs.

While not commenting specifically on Levine's likely legislation, Rosenfeld, winner of the Enrico Fermi Presidential Award in 2006, said the switch from incandescent bulbs became feasible about five years ago when CFL performance improved.

"This is clearly an idea whose time has come," he said.

Levine, a Democrat from Van Nuys in Los Angeles, last year introduced a bill that will become law in July that requires most grocery stores to have plastic bag recycling.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; cfl; conventional; dimbulbs; fluorescent; incandescent; lightbulbs; lloydlevine
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To: NormsRevenge

It is probabably the best idea that came from that State since 1908.

The reason incandesant works is lost power heating up the filament in the bulb to produce light,,it glows like an electric heater on the wall,,neon uses most of its' power starting the bulb when it's first turned on,after that it doesn't use as much as incandesant...go with gas , save you some money..


81 posted on 01/30/2007 7:36:56 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: megatherium
Are the antique fixtures for candelabra bulbs? I was surprised to find out they now have little CF candelabra bulbs. This enabled me to not replace my old ceiling fan in my guest bedroom (although truth be told, they don't put out very much light).

Otherwise known as... didn't work. Did I mention color temperature?

Try replacing elipsoidal bulbs in angled cans in a 25 foot ceiling. Then there's the huge investment some folks have made in low voltage halogens.

When I can get equivalent or better in fluorescents I'll start using them. For now, they're fine for my basement porcelains and that's about it.

82 posted on 01/30/2007 7:38:07 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser: Making fascism fashionable in Kaleeforia, one charade at a time.)
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To: muawiyah
Why don't these bulbs fit "antique fixtures"?

They're too tall and hit the bail on the shade.

83 posted on 01/30/2007 7:39:10 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser: Making fascism fashionable in Kaleeforia, one charade at a time.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
They buzz & hum & flicker

Some of the long bulbs do but the CFLs I use all over my house don't.

84 posted on 01/30/2007 7:40:07 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: megatherium
I don't know if you can dim CF bulbs. But we have fluorescent lighting that can be dimmed, at the university I teach at. How that is accomplished, I have no idea, but it works with no flicker.

I've heard that there are CF bulbs that are dimmable, but it is still an immature technology I think. It'll probably get better as time goes on.

Like somebody else commented upthread said... something to watch is the development of LED's. They're going to take over someday, I think. Bright, clean light, and a fraction of even CF power usage. They're not quite there yet, but I think they will be.

85 posted on 01/30/2007 7:40:17 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: oceanview
they will use global warming to control every aspect of our lives

And now Bush has signed on to it.

86 posted on 01/30/2007 7:41:37 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: megatherium

Both the ballast and the switch has to be capable of dimming.


87 posted on 01/30/2007 7:41:59 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Like everything, time will tell. The technology is improving rapidly, and the products available for various different applications are changing almost monthly. Stay tuned.


88 posted on 01/30/2007 7:43:07 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: NormsRevenge

If you Kalifornians are looking for an investment opportunity, here it is. As with anything that gets banned, its market value will skyrocket. Just look at 5 gallon toilets, standard capacity maganzines (10>), and assault rifles.


89 posted on 01/30/2007 7:43:59 PM PST by Nachoman (Screw my attitude.)
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To: going hot

Heat is primarily what incandescents produce.


90 posted on 01/30/2007 7:45:03 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Ramius
The new CF bulbs are much better than before, and they really do work well. I've put a bunch of them in my house in various places. And they're *very* economical

I use a fair number as well. They are not as bright as the incandescent bulbs that they claim equivalence to. In addition, I am concerned about fire danger. I have one that burned a hole in its base, another where the base was discolored by heat but didn't burn through (different brands).

91 posted on 01/30/2007 7:45:53 PM PST by PAR35
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To: NormsRevenge
But I happen to like the softness of the incadescent light bulb and really enjoy its warmth? And I love its round shape rather than the goofy spiral shape of the other. Do my preferences not matter to the politicians who are taking away my right to choose? If a woman can have a 'right to choose', which happens to involve the taking of a human life, don't I have the right to choose the light bulb that I want to use?????
92 posted on 01/30/2007 7:46:22 PM PST by ErieGeno
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To: MarkL

You must be buying those CDLs made in Elbonia. I have had all good results with mine. I only buy GE.


93 posted on 01/30/2007 7:47:35 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: NormsRevenge

I've certainly never had a CFL bulb last 13 times as long as a regular one.


94 posted on 01/30/2007 7:48:28 PM PST by mhx
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To: NormsRevenge

By the way, if this law is passed, I will be glad to sell anyone in California smuggled incandescent bulbs from out of state.


95 posted on 01/30/2007 7:50:09 PM PST by mhx
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To: arthurus

and this bulb thing is nothing. wait until you have to buy a carbon credit, in order to purchase a full sized car or SUV/truck. that's coming soon too.


96 posted on 01/30/2007 7:50:26 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Professional Engineer
Unintended consequences...

Yeah. Liberals are reallllllly good at that. I'm amazed at how many want Cheney for President.

I see their "Impeach Bush" bumper stickers everywhere!

97 posted on 01/30/2007 7:51:33 PM PST by null and void (<----- Shocked and odd...)
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To: Ramius

I use a lot of CF's because they are much more efficient. You're right about the issue with dimmers. Currently (no pun intended), I dim the CF's by unscrewing 4 of the five in the ceiling fixture. If I owned instead of renting, I might rig up a 5 position switch to select having between one and five on--not quite a dimmer switch but better than unscrewing.


98 posted on 01/30/2007 7:52:35 PM PST by flada (Posting in a manner reminiscent of Jen-gis Kahn.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Democrats are not content with decreeing your power consumption. They are on a kick to dictating lighting choice and wattages in your home too. Call it econ-nazism run amok.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

99 posted on 01/30/2007 7:54:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: oceanview

They won't have to in California. They can just keep raising the utility rates and peeps will just sit in the dark and sweat or freeze. Our bills are extra high year round now. Electric bill $600 in the summer and combined gas and electric $450 in the winter. Two of us in the house and have cut back everywhere we can. Only thing left to do is shut it all off.
California pffffftttt!


100 posted on 01/30/2007 7:54:13 PM PST by sheana
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